Israel military begins pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels, report says
Israel military begins pumping seawater into Hamas tunnels, report says
Environmental experts caution pumping seawater into underground tunnels could result in long-lasting consequences for groundwater in Gaza Strip
Environmental experts caution pumping seawater into underground tunnels could result in long-lasting consequences for groundwater in Gaza Strip
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So, Hamas wants to commit genocide.
Israel, the country (not the people), is actively committing genocide.
Israel is committing genocide on the people of Palestine.
If it were only a war against Hamas, maybe I'd have some sympathy left. But their war is against the Palestinian people.
Genocide is a claim of intent, not ability. One can commit a shitty, ineffective genocide. One can kill a lot of civilians as collateral damage without it being a genocide.
Israel claims destroying Palestine is not their intent. Hamas says destroying Israel is their intent. Only one of these sides is explicitly genocidal by the UN definition.
So are you suggesting that Israel is "accidentally" committing genocide?
And if so, shouldn't we hold them accountable for their actions?
I'm suggesting that high collateral damage when attacking military targets is not genocide, nor is pumping sea water into these tunnels.
Are you joking?
Describing what Israel is doing as "high collateral damage" is like describing the US dropping its atomic bombs on Japan as "a tough negotiation tactic".
No, I'm not. Genocide is a claim of intent, not of quantity killed. Israel goes to great lengths to ensure they attack legal military targets.
Israel goes to great lengths to ensure they attack legal military targets.
So are you suggesting they've got bad aim or something? Or is it a "happy accident"?
I think they are lying, and intent not being explicitly declared is weak ground to stand on when you consider what is being done.
So now it sounds to me like Israel is committing what a layperson would consider genocide, but it isn't "technically genocide" because they are being dishonest about their intent.
I'm suggesting they don't care much about collateral damage provided they have legal military targets. They know their enemy uses human shields and they're not going to let that be an effective tactic.
I think they are lying, and intent not being explicitly declared is weak ground to stand on when you consider what is being done. So now it sounds to me like Israel is committing what a layperson would consider genocide, but it isn’t “technically genocide” because they are being dishonest about their intent.
That's a far more compelling argument, but I haven't seen any proof of this. If it is a genocide it isn't a very effective one but I suppose that could be because they are manufacturing plausible deniability. They certainly have the means to level Gaza in a day were they so inclined but that would validate such accusations.
Given Israel's history, however, I find that very unlikely.