Exclusive: Recordings, emails show how Trump team flew fake elector ballots to DC in final push to overturn 2020 election
Exclusive: Recordings, emails show how Trump team flew fake elector ballots to DC in final push to overturn 2020 election
Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.
Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.
So, Trump campaign operatives scrambled to fly copies of the phony certificates from Michigan and Wisconsin to the nation’s capital, relying on a haphazard chain of couriers, as well as help from two Republicans in Congress, to try to get the documents to then-Vice President Mike Pence while he presided over the Electoral College certification.
The operatives even considered chartering a jet to ensure the files reached Washington, DC, in time for the January 6, 2021, proceeding, according to emails and recordings obtained by CNN.
The new details provide a behind-the-scenes glimpse of the chaotic last-minute effort to keep Donald Trump in office. The fake electors scheme features prominently in special counsel Jack Smith’s criminal indictment against the former president, and some of the officials who were involved have spoken to Smith’s investigators.
It's oddly pleasing that the slowdown in mail caused him pain/inconvenience.
caused by none other than his own appointee DeJoy, whose entire goal in the USPS is to dismantle it and privatize it.... talk about reaping what you sow lol
I hope this is true so I can use it the next time my dad goes on some diatribe about how the democrats are ruining the country or how he couldn’t vote for any other than Trump in good faith.
If this is true, everyone who continues to support him is outright against our country.
You think this is gonna change a single MAGA mind? Your dad will just put his fingers in his ears and chant fake news.
My brother, a Canadian who is socially liberal, economically conservative, and virtually apolitical thinks the fake elector thing is bs.
He doesn't care if it did or didn't happen.
I am not saying this to contradict you. I am supportive of your point. This is unlikely to even remote reach most people in a meaningful way, let alone die hard Trump fans that somehow think he's a virile, brave, genius business person with big hands and an animal musk that Larry from Three's Company would envy.
It's just brain washing. They keep saying the Democrats are ruining the country and if you don't vote for trump you won't have a country. They say it over and over nonstop until people believe it. They say it on Fox News they say it on tweeter. And they encourage their peers to say it. It's insane that it works so easily. I'm appalled and amazed at the same time.
If you click the article, you can hear recordings of this happening and read the emails where they plan it.
It's definitely true. Clear, unambiguous language is used throughout all evidence.
Audio recordings don’t mean shit to these fucks. They’ll just grab it by the pussy and toss it into their basket of deplorables where some, I assume, are good. The whole thing will blow over by Easter.
That was the case even before this news.
Your dad is a total loss, bruv. Sorry - that’s just how it is.
That should be the smoking gun right there. Wonder what kind of lies and bullshit they're going to throw at this one.
Idk I thought the live televised insurrection was going to be the smoking gun lol
"Let's have trial by combat!"
There's so many smoking guns at this point you can field an army with them.
I think everyone is so bumfuzzled because they didn't hide any of it. It was out in the open, live tweeting acts of treason. Smoking guns are really important when you didn't watch them load the gun, aim the gun, and shoot the gun. We all saw the entire crime in real time, and it's weird that justice is taking this long.
What smoking guns? There's so much smoke I can't see anything through it!
Yes but right wing media does not cover these things and even worse: They give their audiences fresh, daily propaganda suggesting that crimes like this are no big deal (unless Democrats do them) and that the opposition will always seem so, so much worse than the worst Republican criminal.
It's the argument right wingers always fall back on when they've lost an argument or have run out of ways to change the topic: The other side is worst or "just as bad". No. No they are not and objective reality proves this. There's so, so many more criminal prosecutions and convictions of Republicans/conservatives in general than there are Democrats/liberals.
Those on the right will claim the justice department is out to get Republicans yet law enforcement and the justice department itself have vastly more Republicans/conservatives. If there's a crime to uncover on the Democrat side of things they are actively and wholeheartedly looking for it.
Wonder what kind of lies and bullshit they're going to throw at this one.
Bog standard "plug their ears and scream FAKE NEWS" with a dash of "rules for thee, but not for me".
Yeah, I’ll just throw it on this pile of other smoking guns we have here.
Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail
Reminder that Trump's Postmaster General sabotaged the post office's handling capacity in order to interfere with absentee voting.
I’m going to need all you libtards to show me where on the constitution it says that crimes are illegal or that presidents can’t commit a lil treason every now and then
Also, what’s taking so long to throw this shitbag in jail already
If SCOTUS rules that sitting presidents are immune from all crimes I want biden to just fucking chainsaw the cheeto in the face. Maybe that'd be a big enough object lesson for maga zombies, but probably not even then.
They've got quite the conundrum on their hands. Do they affirm the power of states and the presidency, and strengthen Democrats? Or do they weaken the power of states and the presidency, and weaken Republicans and Trump's position? Or do they try to have the best of both worlds, and deepen their reputation as corrupt and become even more highly unpopular?
I hope they're really frustrated about this.
This feels like the democratic equivalent of putting out a flaming bag of dog shit.
Everyone keeps talking about how Biden will likely win against Trump. I don't disagree. Most of my concern is if Trump is allowed to run just how much more brazen him and his team will be.
Not to mention how dangerous his supporters may become. Cults aren't known for their logical and clear understanding.
The worst part, is the states that have proposed blocking trump from the ballot aren't really swing states, so it will just embolden his supporters if he wins to be like "they tried to cheat and still lost!"
Like, a state like Tennessee could not include Biden on the ballots and it wouldn't change the outcome of the presidential election with how the electoral college votes are calculated.
It could change the math for primaries, though.
The cult failed even when Trump had power from within the White House and a corrupt US Attorney General. Much harder now when everyone is on guard and he has no executive power, fortunately.
2020 was far more risky than 2024 in my opinion.
Sure but this time the National Guard's reins aren't held by someone hoping it succeeds. They're going to need a lot more violence to get past security this time.
Or for quietly calming down. They always seem to come to a head
I'm so sick of donnie diapers not only still walking around a free man, he might get back into power again.
I hope cholesterol wins soon
Mike Pence is a national hero. he knew about these and said he wouldn't accept them even if delivered. he stood strong when thousands outside wanted to lynch him. As much as I don't agree with him, he is a true patriot. I don't think he gets enough credit. without his backbone we would be in an even crazier place.
Darth Vader didn't stop being a villain just because he killed the Emperor.
Pence did one good thing after years of killing Younglings.
Do I despise Pence for all the shit he did to enable Trump? Yep. Do I applaud him for doing the right thing when it REALLY mattered? You better bet I do. If he kept doing the right thing and spoke truth to power in the face of repercussions I’d think he’d be entitled to be given the respect he’d deserve. People can change and we have to respect it when they do. Do I think Pence would keep doing the right thing? I have no idea but I wouldn’t bet on it. Would he be a better president than Trump? Well just being a functioning adult would qualify. Would that make him a good president? I doubt it. Everybody applauds Reagan but in hindsight he did almost irreparable harm to this country. Some would disagree with me and that’s their right to be wrong 😋
Hero is too strong a word. It took far too long for him to tell anyone what happened and he hasn't once called out Trump for being a traitor or trying to overthrow our democracy. During the Republican debates this year he agreed he'd endorse the Republican candidate regardless of who it was, including Trump.
Pence could have been a hero but he's tried too hard to stay in the middle and not offend the MAGAts when we've really needed the truth.
Pence just had a few more braincells than the rest in knowing the consequences of this action versus the probability of it actually succeeding. He's no hero. He's no Patriot. As always, he is a self-serving sociopath.
Sometimes I wonder if that's all it takes. For all the stories and myths we have celebrating selfless heroism, perhaps it's often well placed self preservation.
Hero is the wrong word. He did the bare minimum as to not be a traitor. Which is something I guess given the state of the GOP.
Such a low bar to clear. Don't commit treason and follow a would be dictator, and have people call you a hero. Sheesh
LMAO
Watch how many people not named Trump go down for this.
Well, this makes it even more terrifying that this guy is running for office again.
Ah, another great example of projection.
what will he get up to next
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The emails and recordings also indicate that a top Trump campaign lawyer was part of 11th-hour discussions about delivering the fake elector certificates to Pence, potentially undercutting his testimony to the House select committee that investigated January 6 that he had passed off responsibility and didn’t want to put the former vice president in a difficult spot.
CNN has obtained audio of Chesebro’s recent interview with Michigan investigators, and exclusively reported earlier this month that he also told them about a December 2020 Oval Office meeting where he briefed Trump about the fake electors plan and how it ties into January 6.
Chesebro also discussed the episode with Wisconsin investigators last week when he sat for an interview with the attorney general’s office as part of a separate state probe into the fake electors plot, a source familiar with the matter told CNN.
The emails show that Brown and the Wisconsin GOP official were instructed to meet Chesebro at the Trump International Hotel in downtown Washington to hand off the fake elector certificates.
The details from Chesebro put a finer point on how members of Congress, including a sitting US senator, were involved in making sure the electoral certificates for Trump ended up in Pence’s hands.
The January 6 committee first revealed last year Johnson’s involvement in trying unsuccessfully to deliver the fake elector certificates to Pence, who announced on the morning of the joint session that it would be unconstitutional to do what Trump wanted and unilaterally overturn the election results.
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