The dating pool

Truth is the second option one is just a normal ass guy. Everyone has emotions and needs. The fact is it's still taboo to be a "man" and have emotions.
Like honestly tell me any other option on there is preferable to someone with emotions... She acting like women don't require the same thing? Gtfoh. It's not even a bad thing. It's just a human thing.
- What she's referring to isn't the same as having emotions. She means the people who expect everyone around them, especially their romantic partner, to manage their emotions for them. Plenty of women do it, too.
  
  I don't know anyone like that. I do know we are plenty of people who are drama queens.
  But that's not really the same thing as having emotions people with functional emotions are actually fine, it's the ones that don't have emotions but do have an awful lot of opinions that are the problem.
  
  No, that's the narcissist. She's referring to having to help someone with their emotional needs. Sounds moreso like she needs to work on her own if it's laborious to support her partner emotionally.
- one of the main points and benefits of a relationship is being able to share problems with someone else and have someone that could cheer you up or to share excitement with
  'emotional labor' is for actual jobs, especially customer service type jobs
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/feb/08/emotional-labor-what-does-it-mean-feminism
  
  Yea, but if you're trauma dumping on your partner every time you see them that's not healthy or fair to them.
  
  Oh so that's why relationships feel like jobs.
- She's referring to overly emotional men, who need extra attention; guys who can't handle failure or rejection, who have a bad day at work and then can't help around the house at all at night and who expect their partner to take care of them, regardless of how their partner's day went. I know the type of dude she's talking about and I wouldn't want my daughter to bring one home. Dude needs a mother not a partner.
  
  Nope this is a list of all the men available, like she said. She's painting all emotional men with the same brush. There are good men and bad men in each of those categories she listed, but she thinks we're all bad.
  So I cry and need a hug sometimes? Emotional labor. I can describe the full range of emotions I feel to a partner and deal with them in a healthy way? Gross.

So she wants a guy with a low sex drive, who she doesnt have to have any emotional attachment to, but who emotionally invested in her, that doesnt have any self confidence, and doesnt know any feminist theory so he cant tell he's in a toxic relationship and doesnt treat her like "shit" (an equal)
- is it too much to ask for?
- So just a vibrator and a dozen Facebook huns.
- Sounds like she'll shout: "worship me as I am your goddess" and "I demand tribute" on a regular basis.
  
  Is that not a normal thing to do?
  
  Some guys are into that
  
  Just do a hit and run, bro 😂
  
  Tell me you've never actually dated a grown-up woman before.
- When did she say she wanted a man with low sex drive? Being a porn addict doesn't mean you have a high sex drive. It means you're addicted to pornography.
  When did she say any of what you wrote? Have you heard of being an even-tempered man who has sex with women but doesn't degrade them or neg them in order to do it, who doesn't need to trauma-dump on their gf because they've already worked through their shit? Your inference into what she posted tells us more about you than her.
  
  Yes please take my dumb lemmy comment about a dumb 4chan post about a dumb tweet extremely seriously and try to start an argument with me by attacking my character. That's a very good use of your time.
- Hmm I think you might be some of the red flags she’s talking about especially the manipulative one.
  
  She literally said she doesn't want a guy who is sensitive and doesn't want a guy who is emotionally distant. Make it make sense.

That seems a bit hard on the dudes.
- It's kinda exhausting seeing progressive language constantly used to rag on men. I want men to be anti-racist / feminist / LGBT allies / etc. I get that there are a lot of problems with many streams of masculinity and people who have been hurt by those have a right to complain, but goddamn. I would not expect lots of women to be attracted to a movement that constantly complains about women.
  
  That's why a lot of people oppose third wave feminism. It stop being about uplifting women and about pushing men down to achieve the goals. It forgot that the original goal was to raise the standards for everyone to equality.
  A lot of males face issues that women face as well. But when there's a portion of people basically saying you're scum for being born a man.... It's very tiring and eventually it starts to feel like "well if you don't care about me, why should I keep caring about you?"
- Yeah, everyone knows it's so easy being male that literally anything bad that ever happens to one has to be 100% their own fault.
  Not particularly realistic, but people go ahead and "know" it anyway.
  
  When h3h3 wasn't what it is now, on one of these cases/stories Ethan said something like:
  "I'm sure many white males are watching this with their average to below average life, and ask: Where is my privilege?"
  And yeah there is truth in that...
- That seems a bit hard on the dudes.
  Fitting since it's a discussion about dating pool. It's not pretty out there for guys
- Cause thats unusual...

I have no idea who this chick is, but it aint exactly a string of hits for us guys out here either. People suck in general.

Well, if we're generalizing THAT much, the dating pool for guys is just as bad.
We've got:
-women who will go out with you just for a free dinner date, then never talk to you again
-women who are looking for sugar daddies
-women obsessed with their socials (IG, TikTok, etc)
-women so unnatural you question they can still be considered human (lip fillers, butt lifts, boob jobs, have you ever heard of the term "Bimbofication"?)
-all of the above
In reality, there are so many more people in this world that don't fit any of these categories on the men or women side. It's just that a lot of the "dating pool" she's talking about is centered around dating apps. The real world is so much more diverse.
- How about “astrology and crystals are my personality”
  
  I was with a girl in her room and when she started teaching me about astrology, I just bursted out laughing with how dumb it was. Basically, what you just said before but 10x worse with this girl, there were rocks fucking everywhere. I'm suprised Hank from Breaking Bad didn't show up.
- Your forgetting the "I have sex" girl.
  Having sex is basically her whole personality.
  
  Those women are the worst. Where do they hang out so I can avoid them?

So she's complaining about sensitive guys, but also doesn't want them to be emotionally distant.
Basically wants the guy to do the "emotional labour" but not do any herself.
- How to phrase this...
  Women's behavior towards men's emotions is like...it's their very very favorite TV show, but they hate almost all of the episodes. They want you to be emotional, they want you to be in touch with your feelings...until you actually do, and she throws the remote through the screen because it's not one of the very few episodes of this show that she likes.
  There are words I just don't say out loud in any context anymore because of this. "Love" is one of them. One of my exes would throw a three act opera of a shit fit if I said something like "I love jalapenos on pizza" because "You'll say you love PEPPERS but not ME!" Well yeah, Tiffany; 1 because the word has different meanings when applied to food vs applied to a person, and 2 we've been dating for five weeks at this point; I'm still in the stage of trying to determine if you're sane enough to get serious with, and early exit polls aren't looking very promising." So I say things like "I really enjoy jalapenos on pizza" and I sound like a cyborg but I'm not sitting through another fucking meltdown like that.
- Its just a litany of performative complaints to get attention. Standard Social Media interaction bait. More people respond, your metrics go up, more businesses are willing to give you money to do native advertising on their behalf.
  
  Exactly. Insert the word "woke" into any post and get that ragebait interaction.
  
  Trolling has become incredibly easy on the modern internet. It was always pretty easy, but I feel like it used to have to have more juice, you know?
- Emotional Labor is for the individual to do. If you feel like you need help, that's what a therapist is for. Do you expect a gf to be your therapist? Sharing and expressing feelings is a normal part of a relationship, but expecting your SO to also be your own personal therapist is completely unhealthy. Everyone has their own emotional Labor to do, why should anyone else (who's not a therapist) be expected to do yours?
  
  uhhh, yeah, my wife and i try to be the best therapist we can be for each other. not wanting to do that for the person you love seems weird to me.
  
  Everyone has their own emotional Labor to do, why should anyone else (who's not a therapist) be expected to do yours?
  Because part of a healthy relationship involves sharing with your partner and helping them through their struggles, emotional or otherwise?

Relationships are emotional labor on both sides

Maybe she should find someone outside those social media pools then.
- Social Media Influencer: "All men are trash. Everyone I meet just wants to stare at me, fuck me, or use me as a trophy."
  Same Social Media Influencer: "Five Amazing Tricks to instantly get a stud's attention. When his friends see you with him, they will be so jealous!"
  
  The amount of “don’t sexualize me” women who then turn around and post explicit and obvious thirst traps is crazy.
  The problem is that they’re talking to two completely different and separate groups of men: the bottom-90%, and the top-10%, respectively. They just don’t provide any such context, which turns this behaviour from mere hypocrisy into blatantly cruel hypocrisy.
- Guys who ask you about your Linux distro on the first date (none of which are hard for enough)
  guys who post on lemmy
  
  also raving communists

Meanwhile the dating pool for men contains the following:
Crickets
- No no, there's tons and tons of scam accounts that all use the same pictures of a hot Asian supermodel, who all try to get you to buy them 10k of Bitcoin in exchange for the promise of a handy or whatever
  
  I've seen her. Her breasts are like softballs duct taped to a broom.
- Requirements:
  Woman (optional)
- “No one wants to date me, it must be their fault.”
  That comes with other connotations so we’ll say it’s just a joke for right now.
  
  Awknowledging men don't have many options isn't the same thing as blaming women for the situation.

Well, that post is a straight flush of red flags.
- Thinking that someone else having emotions is work is definitely a major one.
  Also I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do, if I'm emotional I'm bad, if I'm cold and distant I'm bad, what she want?
  
  She wants you to be emotionally available for her, but not to be emotionally available for you. Avoid these people, men or women, for anything you're not absolutely forced to.
  
  I think she's talking about people who need to be constantly emotionally validated, which can absolutely be emotionally draining, especially if you're working through shit yourself.
  Like, if your partner has BDD and you have to have a ~~conversation~~ argument with them multiple times a day defending them from their own self loathing, that's exhausting after a few years.
  
  I read this to refer to the way overly emotional guys that cannot handle failure or rejection.
- Online is a perfect haven for predators so I cant fault her for acknowledging there are some if not many awful people out there(which are in all walks of life and not just preying on young women). If there weren’t there would be no need for moderators. So okay…Good for her for setting some standards but like she could just acknowledge it with her friends over coffee or have a p2p chat about it and maybe put together a game plan and do more deep dive on how to get more aware of when she’s getting used and tuck that away into her back pocket and rely on it when she needs and not set out to ‘teach all men a lesson about young women to be nicer only to them’.
  Cuz if you start announcing things like she did and just going ‘no users!’ On a public profile this is just lazy filtering and airing personal baggage. At the very least you still have to give people a chance not to tick those boxes or get some counselling if you start predicting the worst of an entire group and start getting exclusionary and generalizing who’s victimized and who’s predatory based on age and gender like this.

People calling the effort you put in to support your partners, friends and family "emotional labor" are either blatantly misinformed or people who want a pass on not giving a shit about their "close ones".
Emotional labor, as a term, was created to explain the difficulties and effort someone has to engage in to regulate their emotions when they're constantly dealing with the suffering of other people during work. It's valid, just as long as you use it in its appropriate context. This dumbass appropriation of the term by a certain branch of liberals is like if someone used the physical concept of entropy to justify why they're never getting out of depression.
If someone only wants emotionless relationships with people they only interact with for their own benefit, and never giving a care in turn, that's legitimate, as long as they don't lie about their intentions. But that might also explain why this Hannah at the OP cannot find a good partner.
- If your partner has a mental illness/disorder, then being in a relationship with them can absolutely involve emotional labor.
  
  We all have mental disorders. Fuckin everybody does. Especially those considered normal. If you have no problems fitting into this corpo hellscape, you're nuts.
- The irony about depression and entropy is that is actually a pretty good analogy. Depresson, just like entropy, will only cool down more and more over time. You quite directly have to put in effort to solve depresson just like 'something' has to be countering entropy for difference to remain. Entropy untreated leaves you with nothing to work with much like depresson.
  
  It works well as a metaphor, which is why people might be fooled to think there might be a direct parallelism without understanding the insurmountable differences between both (depression may be very hard to get out of if you're in a downwards spiral, but definitely possible, while entropy is literally an inevitability of the Universe, as far as our understanding of physics goes) which is why I compared it to the popular appropriation of emotional labor, which notices the poetic similarity but is unable to understand the actual differences between both.
- Mind to explain how?

I certainly dislike people who have neat little boxes to put other people in. I know it's a human thing, still think it's detrimental.
- It's not a human thing. Humans are natural empathizers. It's a capitalism "you're your job and your khakis" thing.
  
  Theres some tendency towards tribalism that is probably a human thing though right? Wasn't that the main social unit for humans through prehistory?
  
  Yeah communism famously doesn't allow for punishing people for intrinsic traits
  
  Empathy is a learned behaviour.
  
  Lol, humans are inherently tribalistic.
  Capitalism is actually normal human behavior. There's a reason it has to be regulated.

Easy, just go bi and date other women. You still have the option for men.
Edit also it’s unfair to say what she’s saying anyways. I almost feel like your dating pool options or choices are more a reflection of you than other people. Or idk, maybe some people get unlucky.
- Yeah she's gonna have a rough time

The dating pool for young men is literally
-OF models
-"Sensitive" girls you have to perform constant emotional labor for
-Narcissistic (if not sociopathic) insta models
-Emotionally abusive manipulators
-Spambots
- Add gold diggers to the list
  
  Gold diggers are not in the pool for non-rich

I hate that I’m the second, and so aggressively that it’s hurt relationships before
- ~~if i tried to comfort you about it, though, wouldn't that just perpetuate and enable the problem?~~
  ...actually no, i can't even joke about it. I'm sorry people left you feeling emotionally abandoned, bro. It's not fair that you get put under this double standard. The fact is, everyone needs emotional labor. Another word for emotional labor is goddamn fucking empathy and SOME PEOPLE don't want to show any toward men.
  THOSE people don't matter. The kind of woman who would look at you as a burden would, in fact, be a burden upon you.
  You are worthy of love. You are worth the investment of psychological and emotional energy. You have value even above and beyond intrinsic value as a human being. And if you were here, I'd be taking us both out for tacos and/or ice cream right goddamn now.
  
  Another word for emotional labor is goddamn fucking empathy and SOME PEOPLE don't want to show any toward men.
  The very people screaming the loudest about “toxic masculinity” being a problem in men, are invariably the ones imposing it the most fiercely upon men, as this woman is doing.
  
  I think this statement about emotional labour is being misinterpreted and knee jerk reactioned. People are getting angry and jumping to conclusions about men not being allowed to have emotions, but that isn’t it.
  Of course partners are supposed to support each other. What this is talking about is someone who prioritizes their emotional needs over the other person the majority of the time to the detriment of the relationship. Your partner is there to be your partner - the role of full time therapist is above their pay grade. And I’m wondering whether this is highlighted as an issue because men are less likely to seek therapy where needed and rely on their partner for this. Helping your partner through issues is one thing but sometimes it’s healthy and necessary to zoom out and get perspective from a professional. This happened in my relationship and I had to honestly and kindly say I don’t have the expertise to help you with this issue. I’m willing to hold space for you and sit with you as you navigate it but you do need the help of a professional to unpack this.
  Have you ever had a friend who every time you hang out with and the whole time it’s them talking about themselves and their issues to the point where they don’t even show any interest in you. You’re effectively acting like that person’s therapist 100% of the time.
  I had an ex brother in law like this. He had many mental health challenges but everything was 100% about him all the time for the whole family. His likes, his dislikes, his issues, his interests. He’d ask a short how are you and dive right into all his shit. If the event or conversation didn’t revolve around him, he would leave and disengage. It sucks the air out of the room and it’s fucking exhausting for everyone.
  
  The whole concept of emotional labour is designed to sell therapy.
- Eh, the Twitter person can go fuck themselves. Both partners deserve emotional support and comfort. That's what being in a partnership is about. Just because men are pigeonholed by toxic masculinity doesn't mean we don't need emotional validation.
  
  Yeah she sounds absolutely unhinged. I don’t expect my SO to manage my emotions for me, but I absolutely rely on her for emotional support, just as she relies on me for the same. Living is hard but we make it better by experiencing life together.
  This post could be reversed in gender and be women who:
  Expect to have NSFW social accounts and contacts while being in a committed relationship
  Need constant emotional or financial support and are unable to manage their own emotions, usually in a parasitic manner of being overtly dependent
  Think their relationships are a competition, so they both need to constantly “one up” each other on things like physique, income, accomplishments, and often compare their partners on that “scale” to other potential partners
  Play hard to get and expect constant work from one side of the relationship while maintaining an aloof effort themselves
  Support feminism and equality in a way that is “treat me like a queen and not an equal, showering me with gifts and affection purely because I am a woman”
  I think everyone could benefit from following the lyrics in Bo Burnham’s song: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llGvsgN17CQ Be a loving human toward your partner, and expect them to do the same
- Eh, I wouldn't take that at face value. Sometimes women use that "emotional labor" line when they're the ones who expect a ton of emotional labor from their male partner but have no desire to give any effort the other way. I'm not gonna try to claim that's the norm or whatever but it does happen.
- As a woman whose had the same struggle it really does suck, but I can say from personal experience it can be improved and there are ways to deal with it.
  I’ve been on both sides of it actually and I think I learned this behavior from my parents who I grew up comforting.
  One big piece of advice I have is that it’s too easy to flip between extremes here. The response to close off doesn’t help. I have two big techniques that’re helping me here: cbt practice, and pre processing. The latter is basically I step away from loved ones when I’m having too much emotions. Sometimes that means taking a walk without my phone, sometimes it’s locking myself in a room to cry. I get the big stuff out of the way so I can share my feelings while they’re at a manageable level.
- It's normal to be the second. Everyone has emotions. If your partner/ex can't handle that, tell them to go date an AI robot.

Me, an emotionally distant narcissistic porn addict: get on my level nerds

Dating pool for young men is great tho. Women pick you literally if you're tall enough for their favourite shoes
- Well, it's great if you're tall enough I guess.
  
  Have you tried not being short?
  
  As a 6 foot tall socially awkward aneurotypical conventionally unattractive guy, I can assure you being tall is not a free ticket to getting laid
- *if you’re attractive

Lemmy wins again. This time it's the dating game!
- nah we're just such nerds she didn't even care to mention us
  
  Some of us like nerds.

I thought the last one was just conservatives making stuff up until I joined Lemmy.
Don't get me wrong, the woman in the tweet is awful, especially the part about hating men who dare to have emotions, but I'm responding purely to the last thing on this list.
A lot of Lemmy users seem to think all they need to do to be immune to misogyny is to be leftist. It's just been getting real tiring for me browsing this site seeing men be praised for things they at the same time put women down for. Not that men shouldn't be praised for these things, but the double standard here is immense.
The major one I've noticed is putting down women for having a preference on height or even dick size, but men are allowed to only want big boobs or petite women because it's "a natural expression of human sexuality."
There's also that I've seen several times men on here complaining when women are given safe spaces and resources specifically for them, like job fairs and such, and the comments being filled with how it should have been open to men as well because not doing so is sexist, meanwhile being totally ok and even ecstatic when a resource is opened specifically for men.
Like, I'm trans. I've lived on the other side of the coin. I'm glad men around here have a safe space to display their frustrations and discuss men's issues that in most places you'd be crucified for even mentioning. I just wish this could be a safe space for both genders, not just the one who holds the majority. There are a lot of times I feel straight up unwelcome on Lemmy simply because I'm a women.
- My 2c on this, I wish people would understand that a lot of women have similar struggles, same for men, and having spaces for those experiences to be shared with people who understand is really important.
  I think the issue is it feels pretty othering when I've had experiences similar and feel like I'm not allowed to share them (without a lot of angry stares) because I'm not the correct gender.
  I know there have been cases of women's spaces being taken less seriously, but I don't remember any specifics. Do you have any examples that come to mind?
  
  It'd take me ages to find the post, but a while back, there was a post about a job fair for women getting overrun by a tidal wave of men. The comments were filled with people trying to justify it, such as saying that it was illegal and sexist to host a job fair for women only, and people even the slightest bit upset that a job fair for women was overrun by men abusing the legal loophole that they technically couldn't be kicked out got down voted way to the bottom of the thread.
- the woman in the tweet is awful, especially the part about hating men who dare to have emotions,
  What tweet are you reading?
  
  I hope it's not rude that I checked your profile and saw your explanation. I can see how I might have misinterpreted that. The way I interpreted the "sensitive men" and "emotional labor" part was as reinforcing the toxic masculine stereotype that men are supposed to just "man up" and not show emotion. Unfortunately, that's an aspect of toxic masculinity upheld by women just as much as men.
- The major one I’ve noticed is putting down women for having a preference on height or even dick size, but men are allowed to only want big boobs or petite women because it’s “a natural expression of human sexuality.”
  I see men being constantly shamed and catching blowback for those preferences. I mean we can't hope to succeed in shaming women into wanting short men or poor men, etc. but shouldn't the same rule apply to men? More insane is that wanting a tall man is more "legitimate" than wanting big boobs or athletic build in women. The rules are constantly altered to justify all women's preferences and demonize men's.
  Also as a man you can be banned from Reddit not for saying "no trans woman" but just for saying "I want a cis woman". Feminist subreddits will go for your head, too. (Don't get me wrong if one of my kids is dating a trans person I will support them totally also.) I've gotten the vibe that you risk your account here over that, too.
  
  You are correct that in most environments, it is the other way around. In most places, women wanting tall men is considered normal and acceptable, but men having any preference at all is not. My point was not about how things are in society as a whole, but how things are on the larger Lemmy instances. However, even that seems to have rapidly changed since I made this comment. There was a thread about men's issues I saw recently that didn't devolve into "this is why women are awful" and actually stayed on topic, and that was really nice to see.
  What I was frustrated about was that there was no space where both men's and women's preferences were respected, and also not resorting to body shaming when people do not meet those preferences. Lemmy is primarily dominated by men, which naturally makes it easier to talk about men's issues without being shamed for it, but it did lead, for a while, to women's issues not only being overlooked, but also often being intentionally ignored or outright shamed, mostly because men could not understand these issues they'd never experienced, so they didn't feel as real (which is largely the same reason women often have trouble respecting men's issues.)
  I'm guessing it has to do with Lemmy's population finally growing again and new perspectives being thrown into the mix, but I've noticed a lot more empathy about gendered issues lately, which is nice to see.
  As far as whether you risk your account for only wanting cis women, probably depends heavily on the instance. A shocking amount of the time people use preference as a cover for bigotry, so I wouldn't be surprised if some mods are heavy on the trigger finger when it comes to that. Not that there's not legit reasons to not want to date trans women. We can't provide biological children and a large portion of us have no desire to "fully" transition, which are both reasonable reasons to not want to be with a trans woman (and of course that's not an exhaustive list of every valid reason.) It's just often people who say that mean they don't view trans women as actual women and don't want to date them because they're "not gay."
- The major one I’ve noticed is putting down women for having a preference on height or even dick size, but men are allowed to only want big boobs or petite women because it’s “a natural expression of human sexuality.”
  That's not the way I remember it. I remember being told that men having or expressing physical preferences in women was a terrible thing to do, being called a sexist, shallow pig, etc. This has been a female talking point basically my entire life. Then I remember being rejected for being 5'7". You know how we live in a world with 5 websites, each one is full of pictures of the other 4? I think I saw a Facebook post of a Tweet on Reddit that said [woman]: Grey sweatpants are for men with DICK, not men with peepee. [man]: But if I said tight jeans are for girls with ass, not long backs, I'd be the asshole.
  I find that level of sheer hypocrisy is pretty effective at eroding my capacity for empathy.
  Want another example? How about this cycle:
  How dare men rely on only their romantic partners for emotional support. Men should support each other goddess dammit!
  Men create spaces to gather and share activities. -- If activity is not socially acceptable, I'll use the example of tabletop gaming in the 80's and 90's: "EWW look at the nerds and their pathetic nerd shit! Get lost, losers!" -- If activity is or becomes socially acceptable, and especially if it starts building money or prestige, I'll use the example of video games in the 2000's and 2010's: "This environment isn't suitable for women! I demand you change it to accommodate my needs and tastes."
  Why the fuck don't men make and keep friendships with other men? I just don't fucking get it.
  And for some reason they expect me to automatically give a damn when the Republicans take their rights away?
  Women are very vocal about not being on my side. So guess what? I'm not on theirs. Gasp.
  If you feel unwelcome on Lemmy just for being a woman, as far as I'm concerned you can go somewhere else.
  
  Your concerns for a lot of your life experiences are completely valid, but when you make the jump from "a lot of women have been assholes to me" to "women are assholes", you fall into the same pitfall people are criticizing in this thread. There are a lot of women who are assholes. There are a lot of men who are assholes. Let's criticize those behaviors, and make society a little bit better insofar we're able to, rather than join their ranks.
  
  Jesus Christ, dude. Learn some empathy
  Everyone is shallow, that's not exclusive to any gender. Some people are shitty, others can have hard-line views due to experienced trauma. Doesn't mean you should generalize, men and women are not monoliths. Just trying to understand the lived experience of the other side goes a long way.
  
  You’re talking about the most shallow, vapid women out there. The women i’ve met have generally never talked like that. So no, you don’t get a pass to hate on women just because you saw some FB memes that hurt your fee fees…
  
  And for some reason they expect me to automatically give a damn when the Republicans take their rights away?
  I give a damn about Republican douchebaggery because I'm not like those kinds of people, I don't want to be a monster like them. I want to be able to look in the mirror and see someone who's better than that. How women react will never affect me acting on my morals, they don't control me.

Gr8 b8 m8

That's why I date women
- Fewer porn addicts?

There are probably also a lot of single autistic spectrums who are actively avoiding interacting with the rest of the pool.

She forgot creepy old rich guys.
- Read a story about Anthony Scaramucci, the Trump one day wonder. He set up a meet and greet for sugar daddies and potential babies at his restaurant. He'd invite 20 males and 30 females, so the daddies could instantly see who was the most desperate.
  
  Dang! That's filthy as fuck. That said, I wouldn't expect anything less from the "Mooch."

Uhh you can switch the genders and it wouldn’t be a lie. Except the last part would be “still treats other races like shit”. In my experience many “woke” women are covert racist, especially against Asian men. Even some “woke” Western Asian women can be pretty racist against Asian men.
- Even some ~~“woke”~~ Western Asian women can be pretty racist against Asian men.
  FTFY.
  My wife is Asian, and has seen this in her own female relatives and community friends who have immigrated here or have been born here. None of them would ever debase themselves that far to be with an Asian man unless he was loaded AF.
  And my BiL has only ever had one Asian woman take any interest in him, despite being one hell of a handsome man… last time he visited China, he was frequently mistaken for a movie star or a model.
  
  Thats weird, where im from Asian women overwhelmingly date asian men.

Well yeah. The sane ones aren’t looking for relationships because of a combination of the world being on fire, money being worthless and nigh-impossible to obtain, and trauma from past toxic relationships. They decided to focus their efforts on their own lives rather than someone else’s.
Either that, or they don’t even need to date, because someone in their friend group snapped them up. Either or, really.
- Or they are not conventionally attractive, and that of course that makes them worse than nothing...
  
  I mean I think this post/the responses proves that people are more attracted to good personalities than 'conventional attractive' looks, but that's just my opinion

I have lots of female friends and from their stories in the dating scene, this is not far from reality. Of course, it's meant as a sort of social-commentary joke, so there's exaggeration and oversimplification, but there's a substrate of truth to to it.
What's best about the post is the second part. That personality-profile to social media link is spot on LOL
- That personality-profile to social media link is spot on LOL
  It isn't.
  Both reddit and 4chan = porn addict.
  4chan is also ' just a joke' racist.
  
  Is porn addict now equal to is aware of its existence, because the word addict really has a meaning, and people seem to be using it wrongly

I think this huge anti porn push is funny.
"You're not good/popular with women? Sucks to suck you're not allowed to tend to your needs apply that desire to toxicity towards women by working out and feeling entitled to women because you work out instead!"
- I don't know what you are saying here. What huge anti porn push? And your quote... I don't think I understand it. 'apply that desire to toxicity towards women by working out'... what does that mean? There's a grammar problem there, and I'm not sure what it should say. I might guess 'desire for toxicity' - but is that really a thing? Do people desire toxicity?
- I haven't seen a big anti-porn push from women, myself... Conservatives, on the other hand...

1, 2, 5 - all me. Gotta be strategic about it, the more pools I appear in the higher are my chances.
Started to post cringe memes on Linkedin, recently. Anyone got tips on how to get on Insta? Do I really have to hit the gym?
- Learn to cook and post food pictures. Would probs work instead of the gym. Oh and keep a super clean kitchen and wear a bunch of joke aprons.
  I mean knowing how to cook well is definitely an attractive trait in a spouse.

Fuck I m the first one, well at least I m not on 4chan

Win the dating game, lose the game. Yes, guess which I just lost
- God damn it I just lost the game
- huh?
  
  Aww, a youngster just lost the game for the first time.

Doesn't everyone fall into one of these categories? Are there more people?
- Stereotyping is cool and funny. I don't see a problem. I expect the next post to be all the worst versions of women and nobody will criticize.

- Recently dodged a bullet like that.
  We only started texting recently after some dating app chatting, and it started after the second text.
  We never even saw each other face to face.
- I feel ya. 😩

Pretty sure the Twitter ones outdated

Girl, if this is the way you view the dating pool, then maybe MGTOW has a valid point or three to consider.
I may have stepped off the dating field nearly thirty years ago, but in terms of the gratuitous misandry that I have seen as of the last decade or so, even if I were to become widowed I doubt I would ever want to step back onto it. The juice is just not worth the squeeze if I am seen as “the enemy” and facing unjustified hostility and adversarial arrogance long before you even get to know me.
- maybe MGTOW has a valid point or three to consider.
  No. Just no. Don't even consider it. Broken clock being right twice a day.
  I went down that pipeline simply because on the surface it presents itself as something to help men gain independence from relationships, but the hate and vitriol there and the rest of the manosphere is more misandrist and misogynist than anything this random woman can ever do.
  
  If you went to most redpill communities, I would absolutely agree with you. It’s often really hard to tell them apart from feminist communities in terms of their rage and hate against the other gender.
  However, out of sheer curiosity I have poked my nose into and lurked on a number of MGTOW communities that are refreshingly supportive and which do their best to help men move past the rage phase into more productive paths. Mainly because rage generally isn’t conducive to sustained and healthy self-improvement… and if you’re still obsessed with women in any way, you are pretty much failing at “going your own way”.
  I actually know a few MGTOW, and aside from ignoring what society and women demand of them, you would never know they were MGTOW. They don’t talk about women. They don’t get upset over what women do or say. They just don’t want to have anything to do with women because they have much better things to do with their lives.
  And when women complain to all and sundry that they just want to be left alone, isn’t MGTOW doing exactly what women want -- leaving them TF alone? How could that be in any way a bad thing?
  
  If you do it right and actually go your own way you don't hang around the "manosphere" or whatever it's called these days.
  
  The root of the problem is that MGTOW recognizes a lot of issues men face that plenty of people on the left even deny with virulence. Of course, what MGTOW offers as a "solution" is misogyny that only serves to make everyone more miserable, but the young fools who see someone offering them a hand don't know that, and it's very rare for them to even hear any alternative narrative that empathizes with their issues.
- This is for young women, so probably not at all your dating pool if you become widowed after thirty years of marriage.
  Dating is very different later in life. My dad was widowed in his mid fifties, and he pointed out that instead of looking for someone for all the milestones, he was just looking for someone he enjoys spending time with. He didn’t even need to agree with them about religion, because they’re almost definitely not raising kids together.

Dating pool for hetero men: "Women who do not say 'literally' "

s/twitter/fediverse/
Search your feelings, you know it to be true

She sounds like the girl from Sens8 that was with the two gay Mexican dudes.

Women talk shit until they need something off the top shelf.

I'm not that manipulative, come on
- Babe, you're imagining things again! Come on, I never said that...

I'm all of the above. Should I be concerned ?
- Yes

Oh right and which one posts on True Social because I reckon that she'll think those guys are the best.

What are "emotionally distant manipulators?" Some sort of emotionless man that tricks women into sex? Is that not the same as the sociopath?

It's time for you to quit porn boys

It's never been a better time to be a tall, rich white guy. My short kings are scaring off more pussy than a vacuum cleaner. 5'10? Now take off them high lifts and come correct. Profile picture ten years out of date and now you fat as shit, did you think your bankrupt luddite charisma would win her over?