Haier hits Home Assistant plugin dev with takedown notice

Ghetto fork it. GitHub will nuke the forks done via the fork button with the initial DMCA

Then make the devices able to run offline

No, its free an open source, but it out competes their spyware

Home assistant does not, but Haier would rather you use their proprietary SmartAir2 app that vacuums up every tiny bit of personal data for resale, and could potentially turn into a subscription service later.

Mind you smartair2 has a 1.4 star rating on the play store if that tells you how well any of their software and devices work lol

The software is free, and you would never need to pay anything to get set up great system for yourself. In addition to that, they also offer a service that you can subscribe to that gives you some benefits. You can replicate all the functions on your own, I believe, but the service makes it extremely simple.

They do, but only if you want to go through their servers for access outside of your network.

I do it mostly to support the project.

Enshittification exclusively defines online platforms. Stop using it for everything.

Might put it on torrents as well.

I don't think there's a copyright component to this. DMCA isn't on the table

Haier were implying that they might sue if the developer didn't take it down

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Two repos:

• https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn
• https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn

Fork that shit. Upload the source anywhere you can think. Do crime.

It may or may not be illegal, they're just throwing their weight around under the suggestion that it's illegal. Knowing well that a single dev working on a plugin in their freetime isn't likely to want to invest in legal proceedings.

Which is even more reason to do the above, to stick it to them.

Why would it be illegal? A cease and desist is just a fancy letter saying do what we want or else we'll go crying to a judge. If the original dev hasn't done anything wrong (I'm not familiar with the project but I'd still say that's highly likely to be the case) then there's nothing to worry about. So make all the clones you want, and watch a dumbass company Streisand itself

I haven't seen any notice, sounds legal to me.

It wouldn't be illegal if you hosted it in a country where there is no law against such a thing, and/or Haier does not have any presence which would grant them legal standing. Is anyone running a server farm in Sealand yet?

I love my single TRÅDFRI Zigbee lightbulb.

Matter works with HA and HA works with matter, keeping it local and easier (is the hope).

Edit to add: it's not really a private cloud. It's a mesh/WiFi network that transfers data based on the item type.

Eh? Matter is an open source standard, not proprietary in the slightest.

Matter, if implemented correctly, would save them all money and allow the privacy conscious to drop the cloud.

They are losing money on their voice assistants, so they want out of the business of being the voice part of the central hub.

They'll find ways to monetize the users who are less privacy concerned, but that's not me and I think it's not a lot of people who are here.

Ediit: I didn't downvote you. I'm here for discourse and have found down votes don't help that.

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There are problems they can actually solve, mostly heating and power related:

• In summer, lower the blinds on south facing windows when the sun comes up to reduce solar heating, then raise them in the evening to increase air flow against the window panes. This reduces the need for air conditioning, resulting in a surprising amount of power saved.

• On a home solar system, start the washing machine, dishwasher, and dryer that were loaded in the morning when the batteries reach 80% charge. Allow them to run off the inverter rather than taking the charge/discharge losses involved in battery storage, reducing the size of both battery bank and solar array needed.

• Lower the freezer temperature when there is a power surplus, and raise it back to normal when not so that cooling energy is used when it's cheapest/most available

If you don't work from home, you can't do the second two yourself. They require automation. Reducing baseload requirements and battery storage needs can make a transition to renewable power much cheaper and more efficient. With mass adoption, that extends to power grids and not just off-grid homes, and has significant effects on things like the amount of lithium that needs to be mined or the number of coal and LNG power plants that are needed for times that are off-peak for wind and solar generation.

No opinion on Haier but I also like the design. I appreciate an architect who designs something outaide of the literal box.

My heat pump has a timer setting. I can tell it when to start heating water or when to start AC. If your weekly schedule doesn't vary widely it should be enough. I have it set up to heat the water during the nigh and heat up my apartment a little bit right before I get out of bed. I never needed anything more.

Last thing I had was a dishwasher by them a couple of years ago. Seals leaked about 6 months out of warranty and it cost about as much as a new one to replace them.

Again, it's the pursuers responsibility to prove damages.

Pro se and wait.