Whats with the general amity between vietnam and america?
Whats with the general amity between vietnam and america?
Did america getting its ass kicked mean friendship? I hear alot that vietnam likes america more than china which doesnt sit right with me is that actually true, also they like america but hate the french? I heard vietnam be called the mexico of asia. Maybe its my own personal left wing bias but I literally cannot see any reason why vietnam would respect america and hate china.
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We embargoed Vietnam until 1994, IMO we changed strategy and improved our relationship with them primarily as a hedge against China (you know this is the case because Joe Biden recently said that it's not lmao). In South Korea and Japan we hedge against China by forcing a bunch of military bases onto them, but since Vietnam isn't a vassal state we had to take a different approach, and bear in mind that 1994 was the Clinton administration, when our country's global credibility wasn't completely in the toilet as it is now, so we were able to make deals and actually build something, in this case US-Vietnamese relations.
Vietnam had sided with the USSR during the Sino-Soviet split for a lot of reasons, and without the USSR they were looking for a new non-Chinese friend and major trading partner, a role which we gladly took on. Vietnamese people generally have positive interactions with Americans, since most Americans who visit are older tourists or military members who spend a lot of money but don't actually live in the country long enough to commit a bunch of crimes (not that crimes don't happen, it's just fewer than what SK and JP have to deal with). Combine that with the Vietnamese-Americans who maintain relations with their families in the mother country (the fact that many of them fled the South because they were afraid of the Communists redistributing their land is water under the bridge by now), and you have a recipe for a lot of soft power to build up in a very short amount of time.
Combine that with the Vietnamese-Americans who maintain relations with their families in the mother country (the fact that many of them fled the South because they were afraid of the Communists redistributing their land is water under the bridge by now), and you have a recipe for a lot of soft power to build up in a very short amount of tim
You also weirdly have a lot of Vietamese diaspora that are from the post-war period and not necessarily anti-communist, rather leaving Vietnam to try and send money home, because it was (like China) very poor and struggled with sanctions and embargos. Like how the twitter poster Samoyedcore's grandfather was actually a Colonel in the PAVN and war hero, but he lives in LA.
war hero, but he lives in LA.
If that's not a flex on America then I don't know what is.
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Slightly lesser flex but I'll take it.
Being a communist he did use the fact he had a family member who fought in Vietnam (for the SRV/North) to troll other Americans.
Lol, I'm reminded of a Chinese university buddy of mine who used to troll our professor (who got really angry about it) with stories of how his grandfather used to kill American troops in Korea (at the time I didn't even know China participated).