Reddit started doing what they always wanted to do, sell user content to AI.

Shit move from Reddit. Glad I jumped ship to lemmy.

Honestly, lemmy has less users compared to Reddit, yet you still get more engagement.

I don't miss the dipshits, pun spammers, and smug power mods of reddit at all. I do miss their niche subs and smarter users. Like it or not, they do have some brainy folks peppered among the shit posters.

We have some good folks here, too. Just need more of them.

It's a shame reddit has been dialing up the shit faucet slowly enough that most of their users don't notice how awful it is now. They've grown accustomed to the poor quality of the content and weaponized greed of the owners.

1. Called this awhile back, this is why Reddit has such a high evaluation.

2. Poisoning your data won't do anything but give them more data, do you seriously think reddit servers don't track every edit you make to posts? You'd literally just be providing training data of original human vs poisoned. They'd still have your original post, and they have a copy of everytime you edit it.

3. Whoever buys reddit will have sole access to one of the larger (I don't think largest though) pools of text training Data on the internet, with full licensed usage of it. I expect someone like Google, FB, MS, OpenAI, etc would pay big $$$ for that.

"But can't people already scrape it?"

1. Well yes, but it's at best legally dubious in some places

2. Scraping Data off reddit only gets you current versions of posts (which means you can get poisoned dara, and cant see deleted content), and is extremely slow... if you own the server you have first class access to all posts in a database, including g the originals and diffs of everytime soneone edited a post, and all the deleted posts too.

Think about if you perhaps wanted to train an AI to detect posts that require flagging for moderation, if you scrape reddit data, you can't find deleted posts that got moderated...

But, if you have the raw original data, you 100% would have a list of every post that got deleted by mods and even the mod message on why it was deleted

You surely can see the value of such data, that only owners of reddit are currently privy to atm...

I assume AI is training off the content here for free.

I barely post on reddit, just lurk but this made me finally sign up for an account here.

I stopped using reddit after they dropped the bomb on the devs and I'm not a fan of the company.

I understand the hatred towards them, but this is definitely expected from a company like reddit, and any other social media for that matter. As users we must be aware that we don't own the content in their platform.

I wouldn't be surprised if the same story comes from Instagram tomorrow, though I suppose there will be a bigger outcry then.

If they build an AI based on reddit content it will be the devil incarnate.

I bet they can scrape Lemmy content for free then. There are no legal mechanisms to prevent them from doing so.

Well of course, that's the #1 reason why everyone stopped providing free-to-use APIs last year. Because AI companies were getting all that data for free via those APIs.

Slightly unrelated question, but is there an easy way to delete all my Reddit posts and comments? I used the Nuke add-on in the past, but it doesn't work anymore.

I wanna delete my Reddit account, but I'd prefer to erase my history before doing that.

Who cares? Fuck reddit. Half the content is bots anyway. So, bots stealing content to train AI to make content, which the bots will steal and repost. Circle of death for reddit. Good luck with that IPO.

If they hadn't applied the same charges to legitimate 3rd party applications they could still do this and have avoided the massive community backlash.

Considering their horrible track record with advertising and selling Reddit premium this should be the single best way for them to finally monetize their platform. They didn't need to destroy what little credibility they had remaining to their users to get to this point, but for whatever reason they did.

I just Googled my reddit handle and it's appalling that I found websites on the internet that archived a bunch of my posts on there including pictures I posted. I'm not sure what I expected, but it's still kinda annoying. Even though I deleted my comments after editing them and deleting my entire account

Glad I deleted all of my content over there, then.

Damn. I keep meaning to use one of those things that deletes all your reddit data. I doubt it'll actually do anything (reddit has no ethical framework so they won't think twice about indexing "deleted" data) but I still need to do that.

Good, so let's train crappy AI on posts by crappier AI, which was trained by posts from even crappier AI before it.

If you're not paying for the product, you are the product.

FUCK REDDIT! FUCK U/SPEZ! The Red-exit shall endure, VIVA LA LEMMY!!

Greedy little pigboy Steve couldn't resist. Every day they seem to do something that reaffirms leaving was the best plan.

And that’s why I edited+deleted all of mine.

So I need to run any comments I make to reddit by chatgpt before posting, it seems. I heard ai training ai leads to a poisoned data set.

The next move is to use AI to generate posts and comments

I am willing to bet the most active subreddits that are not too bot infested are the NSFW ones. Reddit AI is going to be creepy and horny.

We should have been posting factually incorrect information instead of deleting posts this whole time.

Although I think Reddit does a good job paying factually incorrect information on its own.

If you aren't the customer, you are the product. Congrats on being monetized and kinda sorta immortalized as a series of weights.

If user content belongs to the service provider, one would think that they are responsible for it.

Our collective toilet thoughts are going to fuel the future of robot rhetoric guys

I don’t mind to give my content for AI training. But with my approval and for free.

I've just deleted my Reddit account. That's the last straw for me.

Just going to replace all my old posts with AI generated poison data.

That's why spez the hurensohn "refreshed" the T&Cs very recently.

i stopped using reddit and deleted my accout and posts when they introduced those fucking nft-avatars and it seems that they've been going downhill ever since that.

So nothing realy new after alls half reddit is repost bot .

Went ahead and started running redacted on my old account.

Nothing says we're just another brick in the wall like writing posts that wind up being used to train a plagiaristic corporate unemployment machine.

That post reminded me that lemmee exists. Accounts didn't work that great when I first got here but I made one today and got verified. Logged out of Reddit for the last time and replaced my comments. Eff that place right in it's a-hole. Good riddance.

TBF for many things I write on the Web, I'd actually want to have a bot that writes them instead of me.

It will get trained on some comment posts.

Let reddit die. Join Lemmy or /kbin. https://join-lemmy.org/ https://kbin.pub/