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We should defederate from lemmynsfw

The mods there have decided to allow underage looking content, skirting close to CP. Unless we want such disgusting stuff on our feed, I think we should defederate from that instance.

Pinging @ernest as well.

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  • There is a good case here to defederate every instance by default and only federate based on a white list.

    There are criminals in the fediverse obviously and we should split from them immediately. Don't forget that their content is copied to the servers of Ernest automatically.

    Again, Beehaw defederated 380 instances and it's not just because they disagree with their political stance, but mostly because of this kind of horrible content. Which will come from another new instance, and another, etc, etc. Which means that we need to update Ernest regularly to protect his servers. Or make the default setting as defederated.

  • As long as kbin domain blocking tools work, I can choose to block their content - and I will, because 1) it's pretty fucking vile 2) it might be illegal. But I don't need it to be defederated, I'm happier if I have the tools to deal with this (and other similar stuff).

    I wish we could remove the The "Random Post" / "Random Thread" boxes from the front page. Those seem to display NSFW material quite often - I don't really have any need for "random content" especially since I can't control the source.

  • @LollerCorleone thanks for that.

  • HARD DISAGREE

    Another community having the possibility of posting something you don’t approve of when nothing is actually illegal, nobody is actually getting hurt, and you could just have blocked that community (or even just offending users) for yourself in the first place is just a really dumb reason to force the whole instance to defederate from it.

    It’s up to Ernest what happens, but I’m not on board for unnecessary censorship of cartoons, of all things. I honestly worry for you.

    • It is 100% illegal in my jurisdiction. Any drawn, statue, or other depiction of someone with the appearance of a minor in a sexual manner, regardless of stated age, is treated as child pornography, with similar laws in most major countries I believe. People really need to stop assuming things aren't illegal just because they think it shouldn't be. The country that the admin of Kbin is on also views it as illegal, and he is bound to enforce that on Kbin.social.

      Regardless of the legality, I don't care if it's a 1,000 year old dragon. If it looks like a 10 year old, it's a 10 year old, regardless of how much deflection people do. And if someone likes a 10 year old cartoon girl, guess what they also like?

      People have absolutely 0 ground to stand on trying to defend this.

      Edit: Although the situation with LemmyNSFW was a miswording on their part, I stand by what I said overall

  • Let's flip that argument: should we all abide by American standards?

    No. Kbin is Polish, I think

    • Yes, the developer of /kbin is Polish.
      Lolicon is illegal in Poland.

      • if this is indeed the case, then this is really the only valid reason to defederate. if it's literally illegal to federate, then it's understandable what must be done. otherwise? no.

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