Greed has proven to be a more effectively harmful force against humanity than hatred. We should have greed crimes in addition to hate crimes.
Greed has proven to be a more effectively harmful force against humanity than hatred. We should have greed crimes in addition to hate crimes.
Hatred often makes you want to hurt people, but people hurt peope in the name of greed more often, and not only with less potential for guilt, but is often the cause of delusional accolades and reassurance both from within oneself and from others.
Hypothetical:
A CEO lays off 10,000 employees that helped that company succeed, solely to increase earnings and not because the company is hurting, not only seriously hurting 9,997 people, but causing 3 to commit suicide.
A bumpkin gets in a fight with someone he hates the melanin of because he's a moron and kills them.
Who did more damage to humanity that day? They're both, I want to say evil but evil is subjective, they're both highly antisocial, knowingly harmful behaviors, yet one correctly sends you to prison for a long time if not forever, while the other, far more premeditated and quite literally calculated act, is literally rewarded and partied about. Jim Kramer gives you a shout out on tv, good fucking times amirite!
Edit: and this felt relevant to post after someone tried to lecture me about equating layoffs to murder.
"Coca-Cola killed trade unionists in Latin America. General Motors built vehicles known to catch fire. Tobacco companies suppressed cancer research. And Boeing knew that its planes were dangerous. Corporations don't care if they kill people — as long as it's profitable."
https://jacobin.com/2020/01/corporations-profit-values-murder-culture-boeing
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Here’s what you don’t fully understand about what a hate crime is.
First, laying off employees is not often illegal. However, killing someone usually is.
For there to be a ‘hate’ crime, there first has to be a crime. ‘Hate’ crimes aren’t crimes unto themselves, they are just higher punishment for a crime you have already committed. It’s not it’s own crime.
A ‘greed’ crime, would be more like if you profit from a crime it would be ‘greed’ crime.
So if the racist in your analogy also stole the persons wallet after he killed him, you could call it a greed-hate crime.
But, no, you can’t just create a crime out of laying people off because it saves a company money.
But, no, you can’t just create a crime out of laying people off because it saves a company money.
Yes, you absolutely can. That's how every act that's currently illegal became so. We decided it was not beneficial to allow the behavior and put people in jail if they kept doing it.
company can no longer lay people off
company goes out of business
instead of X-N people losing their jobs, everyone loses their jobs
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apples and oranges.
solely to increase earnings and not because the company is hurting
“Coca-Cola killed trade unionists in Latin America. General Motors built vehicles known to catch fire. Tobacco companies suppressed cancer research. And Boeing knew that its planes were dangerous. Corporations don’t care if they kill people — as long as it’s profitable.”
As we all know, supporting unionization and literally making layoffs a crime are the exact same thing.
No they are not.
But I do not think removing the source of livelihood for hundreds of people for no reason other than making yourself richer is no different to preventing employees from negotiating fair wages.
Well that's pretty dumb then, because if the business isn't thriving they are going to have 0 employees.
Strong unions recognize this and contribute to the success of the business over all else. That's why Germany has many of the best, strongest unions in the world - they're legislated as part of the company and see total company wellness (including employee safety, compensation, etc) as unified goals.
I'm sorry but did you miss "for no reason other than making yourself richer"? I'm mostly focusing on cases where a company is not struggling to stay afloat, but are in good shape.
Also, I don't feel like this is a good faith argument, not from your fault, mind you, so I don't think it is productive to continue this shouting match. I hope you understand my point, even if you disagree with it, but I, hopefully, have a decent grasp of where you are coming from.
Find me any CEO who has made any decision other than quitting their job and getting another, solely for the benefit of making themselves richer.
That has never happened.
I don't understand your point because your point necessarily requires company leadership to be mustache-twirling villains and they're just people.
Elon Musk exists
Elon musk genuinely believes the dumb shit he does is smart.
You want to make it illegal to lose your job?
How would you ever come to the conclusion that’s a good idea? How old are you?
You are really bad at debate / logic / arguing / whatever else you call what you're doing
You just advocated for laying people off to become a crime. I think already think you’re severely mentally restricted.
Because you’re confused about my post only goes to make me more sure of your mental deficiencies. You should really just stop now, you’re not a very smart person.
Better just to stay quiet to not embarrass yourself
It dawned on me recently that so many people on Lemmy are 14. They’re not stupid, they’re just 14. Those downvotes you got? They’re 14.
An action becomes a crime because a law is created for it. Killing wasnt a crime before being put into law. What OP is saying is that we create more laws around the root cause of greed. There are already labor laws in most countries about wrongful terminations so that is most definitely a thing. So it is not an outlandish proposal.
So yes, you can make anything a crime as long as the people in authority agree to it. e.g. Being gay is a crime in Malaysia.