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What is your favourite budgeting method?

A Vanguard video (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1nprZjV_6FM) refers to 4 budgeting methods

  1. the envelope method
  2. the pay yourself first method
  3. 50/30/20 method
  4. zero based budget method

Which one is your favourite?

Edit: non-text version with a 5th method: https://www.lendingtree.com/student/simple-budget/

19 comments
  • I believe I'm doing the zero-based budget method. It is a chore, and certainly not for everyone, but I like to keep track of every single expense.

  • I use YNAB which I guess is technically zero based budgeting but we refer to the categories as envelopes. In my mind I’m doing the same thing as when I had cash in envelopes I just don’t have to deal with cash. I group my categories by the 50/30/20.

    So I guess 4 with a bit of 1 and 3?

    • Yeah! +1 for YNAB. Been on it for around 6 months now, can't imagine not using it anymore.

  • Zero based budgeting for me, though I only discovered the method I came up with myself already had an established name.

    To me it's simply the most straightforward approach.

  • We use some sort of holistic approach. We don't have specific envelopes or accounts for saving. We do have specific accounts for asset allocation although it's not relevant for budgeting.

    1. sometimes in January, I look at our yearly income, input that through a model along with other things such as discount rate, net worth etc. The model shows us the projected time it will take to reach the table flipping point* (TFP) based on what we decide to spend.
    2. Generally, as with most people, income increases over the years as our career progresses so we usually have three options: increase spending and keep the TFP the same, keep spending the same and reach TFP sooner, or a mix in between. I show that to my wife and we decide which option we want.
    3. We now have a target spending for the year. I allocate it into categories in our budgeting app. I try to predict bills based on previous years. For example I try to account for likely increases in housing, etc.
    4. every couple months, I look back and adjust the categories based on actual spending. Reallocate between under budget categories and over budget categories. I look at the ratio year-to-date spending / year-to-date projected spending. It generally fluctuates between 90% and 110%, because actual expenses are not linear throughout the year. Vacations are discrete events for instance. If it goes over 110%, we start slowing down on lifestyle. Maybe eat out slightly less, etc.
    5. next year, repeat the process

    With practical numbers: in 2023 for instance, we set our target spending to about 25% - 30% of our income at the time. Money comes in, and as long as we control what money goes out, the rest is bound to stay saved.

    • Table flipping point: the point in time at which the amount of income provided from your portfolio becomes equal to the amount you are spending. From this point in time you have the constant option of flipping the table in your boss's face, say I quit, and live from your investments from now on. It is usually called early retirement, but I don't like that word because it assumes that you plan to retire when you reach it. Table flipping point means you keep working, but you do it because you enjoy your work, not because you need the money. You don't have to take crap from your boss, you don't have to worry about AI replacing you, etc...
  • I think 2 or 5 is closest. Basically, we pull our savings target on payday, and we track spending for each category, but we don't check up on spending until the end of the month, and sometimes not every month.

    We discuss deviations every few months and make adjustments as needed. For example, our restaurant spending was steadily rising, so we set a goal to cook more and try to prepare new foods, and that cut the desire to eat out.

    I think this works because my wife and I are both quite disciplined and frugal. We do make more than the average household, but we spend a similar amount I think ($60-65k for a family with three kids; median household income is >$75k for my area).

    When I was a student, I did envelope budgeting because most of my expenses were fixed (housing, tuition, etc) and I didn't have a lot extra. When I got married and my first real job, we lived the same way for a couple years until we had a nice cash cushion, then gradually expanded our spending as needed. For example, we got a bigger apartment when we wanted kids, got a house when we planned for a second kid, had a single car when I could bike to work and bought a second when I couldn't. Each spending increase was intentional.

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