Colombia's Medellín declares war on sex tourism after US citizen found with two little girls at a hotel
Medellín declares war on sex tourism after US citizen found with two little girls at a hotel
This is just political theater to make it seem like the Governor is doing something. Colombia, and much of Latin America, has a much larger issue being extremely wealthy countries with vastly poor populations.
These countries are being kept this way purposely so that they can be exploited by much wealthier nations(US, Spain, France, Netherlands, India). This breeds a culture of self regulation and minimal government intervention, riddled with corruption and a populace left to their own devices.
Prostitution in the touristic areas hasn’t been stopped at all, just pushed a little underground while the cops look the other way, because they are also customers.
Fixing this problem requires something that won’t occur in our lifetimes. Which is unfortunate as Colombia is one of the most beautiful and magical places on earth. Antioquia specifically is such an amazing place and the Paisa people are so unique and kind. Really beautiful when isolated cultures can survive this long.
Fixing this problem requires something that won’t occur in our lifetimes.
Hard, sad truths.
I agree on this type of declarations being pure theater.
Which isolated culture do you refer to?
The Paisa people were isolated in the Andes mountains for a long time as it was difficult for the Spanish to access when it was part of Gran Colombia. The culture around Medellin and the coffee triangle is different the rest of country and kind of similar to the Southern hospitality in the US. Everyone is so willing to talk to you and invite you to gatherings even if you’re a stranger.
They are no longer isolated but their culture persists. I just hope all the tourism doesn’t spoil it.
It tracks that he went back to Florida.
It was matt gaetz wasn't it
I always find not travelling to regions known for sex tourism then being caught in a hotel room with 11 & 12 year old children really helps to maintain my reputation of not being a paedophile.
But you do you.
But that sort of thing should be dealt with by the law, not by internet vigilantism.
My hopes are low, let's put it like that
But they were also pretty low for Robert Murat, so, I don't like media vigilantism anymore.
A 3% probability of this being innocent would be too big to discard.
People seem too comfortable with huge margins of error when judging others.
The man, who has been identified as [full name]
Do you mean known pedophile Timothy Alan Livingston of Fort Lauderdale, FL? The one depicted in this photo of a passport? Is that the guy we're talking about here?
Just clarifying.
Further clarification: while he fled from Columbia to Fort Lauderdale, FL, the known pedophile Timothy Alan Livingston actually lives in Cleveland, Ohio.
He took two 12- and 13-year-old girls into his hotel room located in an area known for sex tourism so he could talk with them about how dangerous it is to go into hotel rooms with strangers, he totally wasn't going to do anything else, he swears.
I'm glad someone is finally brave enough to say it, the persecution of pedophiles has gone too far
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lmao average Arch Linux user
I've never used archlinux
People who use arch don't come here they roll their own instance
Iusearch.fyi is speedy and blocks no other instance except the pedo ones so it's the best if you want a self-defined experience on the fediverse without rolling your own lemmy docker
Are we supposed to make assumptions about you for being on hexbear?
This is like the second terrible take I've seen from the iusearchlinux.fyi instance in a span of minutes holy shit.
What about the pedophiles story? where he had two young girls who were not his wards in a hotel room for some innocent reason
Maybe giving out his full name without him being caught doing anything illegal nor contacting him to get his version of the story is a little fucked up
No, he was caught in a hotel room with a 12 year old and 13 year old girl. I hope that, whatever you're imagining might happen to him as a result of this, something twice as bad happens to him every day for the rest of his (hopefully short) life
The only punishment he should get is a few years behind bars, and his fellow inmates knowing why he's in there.
They'll take care of the rest.
Their stated goal is to stop sex tourists. Releasing the names of the ones they find seems an efficient way to do so.
We all know what he was doing, the comment is saying let the law charge him before the public just brands him.
Oh I think they were sure, just interrupted him 20 minutes early.
This is the shit pedophiles say... he was in a hotel room with two little girls. What the fuck you think he was gonna do? Play fucking tea?
Defending pedophiles is some cringe shit my dude and It says a lot about you.
nope, that's called due process under the rule of law. Innocent until proven guilty. His guilt doesn't seem to have been established beyond reasonable doubt, if I understand correctly.
Now, if the police had turned up damning evidence, he would not have been sent home, but sentenced. And hopefully been put in jail for a very long time.
At a press conference, Mayor Federico Gutiérrez said that he would be signing two decrees: one, prohibiting sex work in the area of Medellín for six months, and another, the enforcement of a 1 a.m. closing time for bars in the area for a month.
So now people will not be able to make a living because of this scumbag. Were I a sex-worker in the area, I'd be pretty pissed off. I don't know a better way to address this, I'm just saying that this is why we can't have nice things.
This doesn’t even address the problem. Literally doing nothing is a better solution than the one implemented.
A far better solution would be to get the sex workers to help with finding and stopping paedophiles & the pimps who support this horrific shit
Get the police to worth with, not against, sex workers.
I'd bet anything that sex workers would be able to help identify and track down under-age prostitution.
I hadn't actually considered this. I think you're probably right.
what does shutting down sex work and bars do unless children are at bars & doing sex work???? classic carceral thinking, making whatever processes/institutions that enabled this more oblique and underground than transparent
Politicians are such fucking idiots. "We've got a pedophile problem" "Close the bars at 1 am, and make prostitution extra illegal"
These people are the scum of the earth and fucking disgusting to look at too. And before someone gets my ass on body shaming, actually come down to Latin America and observe the kiddy diddlers. None of them are attractive.
All the attractive foreign men who can easily get any woman they want either hire expensive escorts or use Tinder.
The plan itself is a ridiculous one and only looks to be an iron fist approach to something that isn’t going to be solved through aggressive measures like this.
Trying to say that pedophiles are all explicitly unattractive is actually a terrible idea. Just like any other crime, body type has absolutely nothing to do with it. And pretending it does just makes it easier for attractive offenders to fly under the radar.
I was confused by reading it "after US citizen found with two girls at a hotel".
I think I was thinking about adult tiny woman. But now I realise where the problem is.
Ban all crackers instead, bound to be more helpful than whatever the fuck this current plan is
It's always you fuckin aussies pearl clutching over the word "cracker" please shut your convict settler ass up til you cede the Aboriginals their land back
But only white racism is OK and only white people are pedos!
Haha, that's a good one
hexbear
Oh wait you're serious
Shut up, cracker
Passport Bros are a disgrace to human race.
Better late than never I guess.
Passport bros?
A term used to describe people who go to foreign countries to hook up, usually to fulfill a ethnicity kink and usually presented as those who can't pick up local women so usually somewhere prostitution is not really frowned upon
I just want tall blonde passport girls to become a thing
Sex pests are a major export from western nations to the rest of the world, it's about time this infestation started being addressed.
Wtf is wrong with people who are pedos. There must be some chemical imbalance that we should be able to fix by the time kids are 10 and never become pedos. I mean it's wishful thinking but damn it's 2024!
It's important to note that the attraction to kids, and actually diddling them, are technically separate things.
No normal person has trouble not raping people of the opposite gender, no matter how wild their libido gets.
So while research has essentially proven that the condition itself can't be cured, it doesn't automatically mean a person also wants to rape.
It's when those two things go wrong at the same time, that you get a monster.
So basically, teach consent. If you don't raise a rapist, they're not gonna end up a child molester, even if they feel the attraction.
Also "fixing it by the time someone is 10" is gonna be difficult. People tend to be attracted to people their own age, so what, is a 14-year-old a pedo if they do something with a classmate?
To add on to this, many people who do commit horrible acts against children aren't pedophiles, in the sense that they are sexually attracted to children. Many of them are sexual sadists who are aroused by the act of inflicting pain and abuse, instead.
Oop... ooh boy here we go with the twitter/reddit talking points 😬
There is zero amount of attraction you can have to kids before you become a monster. The only difference between a MAP and a chomo is time. I'm honestly floored here of all places you would see pedo apologia like this, but the federation has been disappointing me a lot recently.
EDIT: Wait what?? I didn't read this until now but "People are attracted to people their own age" maybe it's just my asexuality talking but i'm pretty sure you don't feel "attraction" until your sex juices start flowing. One thing I do remember as a kid was feeling socially pressured to go out with girls even though I was prepubescent and had no interest in that sort of thing, and not understanding why I didn't feel like I had to. Wasn't until I was a full on adult that I started to realize just how much western society low-key pushes pedophilia onto you.
EDIT2: I'm appalled by the reception of this comment and by the fact that the original comment has been allowed to stay up. Allowing pedophile talking points is going to cause permanent damage to both the quality of the community and to the legitimacy of Lemmy as a whole. How are you going to convince normal people to join this site when stuff like this is heavily upvoted?? I sure as hell don't feel safe and i'm sure many others would feel the same way.
I'm going to respond to your last point. First, Jackie Chan wtf meme. Second, kids becoming sexually aware while they are the same age and want to experiment, fine whatever. My point was older people taking advantage of straight up kids between ages of months to 17 years old. That's not a typo, i said months because there are straight up fuckin monsters out there. I wish there was something, say vaccine ( i know, controversial) or another form of medicine that could remove the urges or feelings that a potential pedo might have later in life before it's too late. That's why i said age 10, since i don't think kids become aware of their body until they hit puberty.
The sexual orientation argument is a landmine.
Though it illustrates aspects of the point, it draws a lot of other uncomfortable parallels for people that really really aren't part of it.
And then you'll spend twice as long dispelling the BS it makes people assume about the point you're making.
I feel like this is a crime that really doesn’t get taken serious enough. There are so many studies showing that someone that was assaulted has a higher chance of continuing the cycle of assault when they are adults because it messes with their brain. There really is no seemingly help for a lot of these fucks, are our society is worse off with them.
It's because the people in power are into that sort of shit. Pedophilia is about power and control, which are the same attributes that capitalism pushes to the top. Why else would you think that Epstein's black book had literally every billionaire and countless millionaires in it?
Until capitalism is abolished it's going to continue being "a societal problem"
It would seem there is one thing Americans find sexier than their own family members....
Was it Matt Gaetz again?