The fun thing is I was yelling about this years ago; Nick and Nora are American war criminals and Beth portrays them as a happy little couple in a happy little leave it to beaver suburb instead of actually engaging with the story. Coming out and claiming "akshually we intended this all along!" just confirms that they were cowards who understood what they were doing but didn't have the balls to make the MC a war criminal.
Like, it could have been something like "Nate was stationed at Anchorage during the actual events of Operation Anchorage" or something innocuous like that
But no, it's literally one of the defining moments of the series
A moment which establishes how fucked up the US is
And just gleefully pointing and being like "That's you", as if that's something cool
Fucking wizards pooping on the floor and teleporting it away
Back in the Star Wars EU days my mantra was "it's canon of you want it to be" because the official thing where different sources had different levels of canon created massive unresolved contradictions anyway.
And this is why I play with one of those cute little "alternate start" mods so I don't have to be a war criminal. My wastelander was a regular ass vaultie who just got really good with lasers; and wants to tell Maxson's fascist ass to dance.
I never play as Nate so all this time I've been saying 'lol lmao' at his dead corpse in the icebox out of heterophobia when I could have been going 'lol lmao' because some dumb fascist war criminal got owned.
Nate and Nora are war criminals + Nate/Nora (the player character) is a synth with constructed memories of Shaun's idealized version of his parents could have been something interesting to base the MSQ around
don't you just love it when someone working as a writer is completely incapable of identifying fascism or even war crimes? Wow I love that these people have a stranglehold over an IP I loved dearly. What a cool world where media illiteracy is so rife among the ranks of artists
I was going to say "obviously he was joking, I am Emil Pagliarulo's strongest hater but he's not that ridiculous " only to find that he was not, in fact, joking.
I'm willing to accept that he was (poorly) trying to say the soldier from FO1 was the inspiration for one of the types of people Nate could be giving the broad template of "veteran"
I mean this is pretty much Emil though, he is very much an 'improv' or 'yes and...' writer imo, that's why some of the missions he designed in thief 2 are so good because there's just a lot to discover, that style just doesn't work for narratives and stuff like we can see here.
So one of the main devs for Fallout 4 revealed as a fun fact that the protagonist in Fallout 4 was one of the armour soldiers from the intro of Fallout 1 where they execute a canadian prisoner of war, so according to the geneva convention that constitutes a war crime since the protag participated in the execution by not stopping it
How does that even work. Weren't they frozen as the bombs were falling, didn't wake up for 200 years and would have missed the events of the other games.
I'm never playing Fallout 4, but is your main character a ghoul or something? Cause he'd have to be like 200+ years old to be that guy. This sounds dumb as hell that he even could be that guy let alone is. Fallout really shouldn't be that fucking hard to write for unless it was the first 2 games, those give you a fucktonne of setting and history to work with. A lot of New Vegas' general setting and frame was really just the logical follow up to Fallout 2. Don't get me wrong, it's fantastically written but the broad strokes of things can be handled by following the ending(s) of 2 in a pretty straightforward unsurprising way. Ya gotta make the details good but there is an historical momentum put in place by the first game and expanded on in the second that does lay put a LOT of potential groundwork for sequels.
I'm never playing Fallout 4, but is your main character a ghoul or something? Cause he'd have to be like 200+ years old to be that guy. This sounds dumb as hell that he even could be that guy let alone is.
Iirc MC (You can choose between the husband or the wife) enters the vault during the intro where China nuclear bombing the US and gets frozen for 200+ years.
I'm currently very torn between my staunchly held belief that every single US soldier is a war criminal and my similarly staunch belief that Canadians are not human.