Biden is toast with people under 45 isn't he?
Biden is toast with people under 45 isn't he?
The 45+ crowd will vote for him because they support isn'treal and are afraid of Drumpf but I think we're going to see a massive drop out of young voters. Probably too with the people who already don't vote to begin with, namely service workers who are fucked over either way with D's and R's.
And here I thought Biden was going to win in November, time to eat crow.
Biden forever courting the 5% of Republicans who will maybe vote for him instead of going after younger people who would like to vote Democrat if they weren't such shitheads. "Nothing will fundamentally change."
The only wildcard is how some states had big turnout to protect abortion rights, like Ohio. Which will probably still go red cause it's a shithole state but maybe other states will be blue.
Over 45 Libs (and a lot of people under that age too) really think that they can just say "trump bad, trump worse" to every criticism because to them the break with norms is so shocking that they can't get over it. They think everyone cares about this aesthetic shit as much as they do.
For people who's formative years were around the george w admin we saw a president who did unspeakably terrible things but the libs give him credit because he went to the correspondents dinner and took it on the chin. They really can't understand that we're looking past the optics, we know it's all a charade and we care about what's behind it.
So far we have the whole stimulus check debacle, no student loan forgiveness, banning TikTok, and now his steadfast determination to enable genocide in Palestine. I'm sure there is a lot more. I don't know what he has done for young people except belittle causes and issues that are important to them
I'm probably not voting at all, but Id vote 3rd party again if I did.
He started off saying he has no synpathy for the problems faced by young people and telling billionaires nothing will fundamentally change.
He was cooked from the start he just worked harder than most of the baby leftists who tried really really hard to give him a pass but he kept doubling down and reiterating that he detests them and doesn't care what they think and would never even consider comprimising with them let alone working with them.
He started at zero and has been digging as hard as he can since then.
He barely beat trump, only because Trump killed 2 million Americans to own the libs, and since then has done everyrhing he can to convince anybody who cares about workers right, the environment, or not committing genocide to not vote for him.
Just look at the current liberal memes that are literally "ok Biden is doing a genocide but if Trump wins he'll do even more genocide"
Gotta vote for Biden so Trump doesn't bomb the rubble.
Biden's still favored to win on all the betting markets.
I'm guessing Dems will laser-focus on women's health, pretending they weren't responsible for anything lost while they controlled all 3 branches of federal government. Of course they won't mention the hospitals where their bombs are dropping nor the arab women who are giving birth while literally dead in the street. But the advertisements will be convincing!
banning the platform where they've watched him egg on and fund genocide after a year of that is like committing youth seppuku.
Zoomers: We're never going to vote for you, you genocidal geezer.
Biden: You're right Jack, you'll never vote for me and anyone else ever again.
declares martial law
Idk. American elections are really unpredictable and very close. This is not a defense of Biden or Trump just that it's like not very different from flipping a coin.
Turnouts going to be lower that's for sure.
this is my last election as an under 45, but i haven't voted for a major party for El Presidente since Obozo's first term, let me be clear. i thought he was gonna close gitmo.
i work with a bunch of PMC types in the non profit / give a fuck sector, so they are generally younger than me by 10-20 years. there are only a few committed turbolibs, who like brag about their connections to the local DNC franchise. legit cringe. i think probably there's a chunk that are more fearful of another trump term than a biden term and don't see a path out, though we all live in a safely red state with just a handful of electoral votes anyway so the emotional investment is non existent for anyone with a functioning mind. so basically, the bulk of the over 45 professionals are all visibly wigging the fuck out about another trump term, to our incredulity. i bet if i told any of the well remunerated / wealthy Gen Xers that i wasn't gonna vote for biden, they would burst a blood vessel.
what would be amusing to me would be if biden loses, but the dems pick up seats in the house and senate that some kind of antagonistic coalition can form with the numbers to override presidential vetos and fuck with the courts. i don't think it's feasible and would probably only do terrible things, but it would be funny.
Don't be silly, this is America! No one under the age of 45 exists! that's why we put in so much effort causing the housing crisis! We helped all you homeowners BuIlD yOuR wEaLtH! Why aren't you happy?
Besides, I'm sure those young'uns LIKE being basement dwellers anyways!
Biden is toast...
Homie, Biden smells toast on the daily.
It really is the split where people stop getting their news from major networks/cable and start getting it online.
I was just watching UCLA protest video where someone of the zionist side pulled out a Trump flag. No significant negative reaction from anyone on the zionist side. Support for Israel's genocide is support for Trump. Biden is voting for Trump. :vote: Blue No Matter Genocide
I think he’s definitely toast with any voters under 25. Beyond that it gets a bit harder to say. I think he’s definitely wildly unpopular with most folks under 45 but they might just vote for him to vote against Trump. It comes down to whether people view their vote as a personal endorsement of a candidate, in which case they won’t vote for him, or as a defense against Trump, in which case they will not. If I had to guess today, I’d say Biden wins the popular vote by a slimmer margin than what Hillary won by in 2016 but then loses the electoral college because of lower turnout in the same key states that Hillary lost.
I’m still not totally convinced that the democrats care too much about winning. You’d think they would wait a few months until after the election to discuss stuff like the Tik tok ban or even additional funds to Israel. It really feels like they’re looking for ways to self sabotage so we get trump, at which point they’ll blame the left/young people. We’ll see what these next few months look like.
IDK this country has a massive cuckholdery to the Democrat Republican clown show. I don't see them moving to the Green Party or PSL in numbers that one would think would send a message. There's non insignificant support for dynasty establishment troll RFK Jr. So if those people don't channel this fustration into a relavant supporting party such as Green or PSL save an armed revolution nothing will fundementally change and the cycle of D/R clownshow continues.
Edit - all the people not voting it's like just rolling over for the Empire. Passive acceptance / consent. Surrender. No vote. No right to complain.
It's ironic that the Brandon admin had been bringing TikTok influencers to the White House to help boost the public image of the Inflation reduction act, but now is like fuck it, I'm banning the whole platform to defend a genocide.
EDIT: According to the intercept, the white house is still courting TikTok influencers.
I don't even know how much Biden himself cares about winning. I think the dem party will keep scaring people with Trump and hope that's enough, maybe try to throw out some last minute handouts right before the election, but yeah overall I think he's been toast for a while now. I guess Trump will just lay low, sell his shoes, bibles, and post memes.
Biden was always going to lose reelection, I never had a moment of doubt in my mind since the second he was elected
You bet your ass I'm voting for Biden over Trump. Elections have consequences. I don't like Biden as a candidate. But with how elections currently work in the US, it's either Biden or Trump. And that's an easy decision.
Edit* you hexbear folks are an interesting lot. You fling around accusations that completely ignore the complexities of geopolitics. It's insulting to suggest that I support genocide, especially without engagement in an actual discussion. I've been around lemmy a while now and every day it's the same argument from you folks. There can be no discussion because y'all can't act like adults and have a good faith discussion. The only answer is to not engage, and that's a shame.