Ukraine Just Blew Up Russia's Main Missile Base In Occupied Crimea

Fuck Forbes. They prop up conservatives and conservative talking points. They also post screens of tweets from conservatives, like the dickbag (from this article) who referred to the Ukraine army as "Ukronazis".
The news of this attack is great to hear, but we should not be supporting Forbes with clicks. They are the enemy.
- I tend to agree with you, but I also think it's important to know how the "enemy" thinks and interpret the news. I don't think we should lock ourselves up in echo bubbles only reading stuff we agree with.
  
  In theory I'd agree with you. I don't mind reading of nuances or different opinions than mine.
  In general however, conservative media are worthless piece of shit embarrassments that I don't want to waste time on.
  There's a difference between discussing with sometime with a different opinion, and stopping in the middle of the road responding to every deranged, mentally challenged ignorant mean crack addict who yells their vision of the world from the top of a soap box.
  
  We don't need to post their blatant propaganda as if it were a reliable source in order to do that though.
- Forbes is just a blogging platform where "contributors" can post their clickbait. Forbes adds their reputation and the ads and then splits the profit with the "contributor"...
  
  That explains the extremely low quality content from them. Thank you.
  
  In this case you are wrong. This article is by Forbes Staff, not a contributor.
  Forbes uses one name to deliver two different products, one of which is an in house magazine.
- we should not be supporting Forbes with clicks.
  DeVito gif May I offer you an archive link in these trying times?
- Nevertheless, Slava Ukraini!
  
  What does that translate to ? some sort of rallying cry
- Conservatives like the Tories, who are like"fascist-lite", or conservatives like USA conservatives, who are full on "nazi level fascists"? 😅
  I think Forbes is scummy for many reasons and never liked them, you've given me another reason to dislike them.
- Except for the tweet, how is this article not just bringing the news? I don’t get it.
  
  Believe it or not, Forbes has written more than a single article.
- I agree with the referencing a horrible twitter user in the article being a bad thing, but your stance on conservatives, especially your username, is very fascist in of itself.
  
  Intolerance of intolerance is essential to a free society. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
  
  is very fascist in of itself.
  No. It's not fascist to have a firm and authoritative opinion. It is, perhaps, violent and authoritarian in outlook, but conservatives have just tolerated if not endorsed an insurrection under false pretenses and those conservatives have yet to kill the traitor responsible for it, so contemplation of violence is justified because this 'cold civil war' as Vivek called it is not going to end with that boomer criminal in power ever again.
- Are you suggesting there isn't nazis in Ukraine's armed forces? Take a look at the cemeteries for the soldiers, you will notice some weird flags flying.

- It seems like they've had the patience to do things very deliberately.
- I'd agree, yet I keep seeing people argue the counteroffensive is going poorly for Ukraine because they're not making serious gains in recapturing territory. People forget that there are many ways to "win" a war: one of which is the enemy simply giving up and withdrawing. Chipping away at the enemy's ability or will to continue fighting is a path to victory.
  You don't need to steamroll the enemy if you make it militarily, politically, or economically untenable for them to hold a position.
  
  Anyone saying Ukraine isn't moving quickly enough is the kind of person who will 'go out in a blaze of glory' on the battlefield by charging the enemy like a fucking idiot.
  After they get shot in front of everyone, they just serve as an example of what 'not' to do to win a war.
- I remember reading recently that Western powers assessed why the counter offensive wasn't working as well as it could, and they determined it was troop placement I believe. I'm willing to bet they provided advice here to get them back on track.
  
  Well, there are tons of minefields and dug in defenders too. I would 100% not want to be attacking that. Supposedly the Russians put two mines on top of each other so even mine resistant vehicles aren't safe.
  Although I recently read that the Ukrainians only need to push about 10 or 15 KM more. They won't be at the Azov Sea but their artillery will cover the area. That means no private trucks will want to supply Crimea from that direction. So they are close.
  The Ukrainians are literally fighting a war for their homes. The Russians are not. This is Vietnam all over again. There's no way for Russia to "win" unless they just leave and falsely claim victory.
  
  They expected Ukrainians to use their men like cannon fodder to break through russian defenses.
  It's fucking stupid, I know, but most Western officials are just espousing talking points to please their constituents. None of them should really be taken all that seriously.

I do like to see uplifting good news stories like this
- Yeah. The gradual triumph of Ukraine makes me hopeful for the future of democracies in general
  
  Yes, I hope it has been making China have second thoughts about invading Taiwan
  
  I fear the moment the Republicans get control.

I appreciate the distinct lack of hexgoons on this thread.
- I had to reread that twice to realize you weren't upset at hexagons, and was wondering where you had found graphics of the Ukrainian war superimposed on turn based battle hex maps
  
  Hexoghouls
- Out of the loop, what happened?
  
  lemmy.world defederated from a instance full of pro-russia shitheel trolls who would ruin any discussions regarding Ukraine. It's very nice not having to scroll through their propaganda.
  
  hexbear is an instance full of communist trolls
- Thank god, they flamed the crap out of me a couple of days ago, I thought this was what Lemmy was turning into and considered actually leaving.
  
  I just block anyone who trolls. It takes a while, but the more you block, the less they become a problem.
  
  With a higher lemmy adoption their presence should go proportionally down.
- What is a hexgoon?
  
  Users from hexbear I presume. It's an instance with predominantly Russia-China supporting users.
- I can block the whole instance and their posts, but not their users yet :/
  
  There was a post earlier that they jumped on.
  I was blocking assholes for a good hour. It ain't much, but it's honest work.

The messaging coming from Budenov, the Ukrainian head of intelligence:
“We have the ability to hit any part of the temporarily occupied Crimea as of now. Absolutely at any point we can get the enemy. Those who have done stupid things, it’s better for them to leave,”
“And those who are waiting must prepare and do everything to help, first of all, the intelligence agencies, and then further, when the troops go into the open.”
Psyops for sure, but part of me wants it to happen. Now with this battery gone it definitely sets the stage.
- I don't think it's only a psyops.
  One think is getting hit by drones and missiles. It's a whole different level to not spot a landing squad crossing almost 100km of sea, land and blow up your critical military installation.
  They likely already did it last year, when they blew up planes on a Russian base in Crimea, but it is nice to see that they still very much can do it.
  
  russia seems to be bad at spotting and stopping anything armed in territory not currently on the front (or maybe there too?).
  
  That is one of the key points of this war. The Russian army is an army of the age of tanks, with a handful of air support and some missiles. The Ukrainian army has already entered the age of drones, and uses it wisely.
- Now those new F-16's can dominate.
- I read a theory about why Ukraine has not completely destroyed the bridge to Crimea, even if they were able to, was to leave a way out & not fight the occupying troops into a corner, at which point their destructive unpredictability is worse than just letting them leave . This could be similar
  
  No, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Russia has enough boats/ships to evacuate Crimea if they wanted. They used to supply the whole Crimea woth ships before the bridge was built.
  If Ukraine could, they would definitely destroy the bridge. But it's just very difficult task.

i wonder if Russians realize how nervous they should be.. maybe seeing Russians shoot down Russians outside Moscow will start to wake them up..
- Killing Prigozhin definitely pissed off a lot of nationalist Russians
  
  What I don't get: Doesn't this turn the Wagner mercenaries into even more of loose cannons? What's stopping them to just fracture into chaotic splinter groups now?
  
  Most of those "nationalists" are fucking statetists.
- Why, though?
  
  that's exactly right.. keep that up, you'll get there..

this happened yesterday. S400 and Bastion
- today there was amphibious raid in general area of that site, with air support, presumably allowed by previous activities
  
  Ukrainian soldiers in Crimea? Do you have a link?
- GUR has released video of S400 site being destroyed, but only from the frame when explosion happened, as in, not showing what did it

Good.

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Get absolutely fucked orc scum!

Good job!

Neat!

- You said it, Barbie!