Wayland usage has overtaken X11

Reporting is done by users who voluntarily upload their system specs via
# hw-probe -all -upload

So not skewed at all...

respects to "unknown" and tty users.

fuck display servers. All my homies love ASCII display tech.

Not really surprising considering that (IIRC) it's the default on the Gnome variants of Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora

But keep in mind that voluntary data tends to be pretty skewed

Yeh, I'll wait until the bugs are ironed out and my distro (mint) determines it's stable. No need to start asking for troubles when everything is working smoothly.

Every now and then I think 'OK, this time I surely should be able to switch over to Wayland!'

And there's always one application or use case that stops me.

Yeah, I'm on nvidia which hasn't helped either...

Wait, is it on a population of 5000 computers? Bruh, why are we even looking at this?

I'm still using x11 as Wayland always make my screen blinking and tearing no metter what distro or driver version.

I'm sure Nvidia will become stable on wayland by the time xfce also migrates lol

who is using linux through their web browser

I've switched to X11 last week, because kwin_wayland crashes each time my monitor enters low-power mode.

I wonder how representative that is of actual software used. I would imagine hardware probes are run from installers and live systems quite frequently. I would certainly not expect several percentage points of "neither" in practical settings.

Way to go Wayland

I switched to Wayland the moment my distro went moved to KDE Plasma 6 because according to my logic: if things are going to be broken and I'm going to adjust to them anyways, I might as well do it all at once: shock therapy style.

Plasma 6 broke a lot of my desktop customization, but that is to be expected. And Wayland? It has been surprisingly okay. I am experiencing some keyboard-related problems that I can't even begin to track down (sometimes the keyboard flat out refuses to work for certain programs, sometimes it's the numpad). However, I am not sure if it's really related to Wayland, so I'm withholding judgement.

@KISSmyOSFeddit
Hw-probe is a nice project. To buy my laptop I created an usb bootable linux that auto connectet my mobile hotspot and uploaded the report.
I went to som shops and usbbooted their devices.
Most shops had no problem with that.
So I found a working convertable laptop. 👍

What's sad ont this linux-hardware.org website is the poor desin of this homepage.
It is really not usable, except for your own device. But also there its difficult to analyse for certain hardware details.

Finally, it's the year of the other desktop!

Voluntarily uploaded data? This feels like that old linux user count site.

I will run that probe on my machines to contribute, though.

Here's a smaller sample size (2417 people at the time of writing) but all you need to do is fill in your details on the website: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics/

X is at 66% and Wayland is at 33% for GamingOnLinux.

Is this because of me?

I try to switch once a month. Still not there for me yet, last time Cura was acting up.

Those poor Nvidia users lol.

Glad to see it finally happening. Wayland has been an amazing experience for several years

I tried switching to Wayland on Mint, it did not go well. Unfortunately I do not care to follow an hour long guide to figure out how to get it to run games properly.

Which nvidia drivers work with Wayland? I have one pc that only has 470 supported card, l guess all hopes are lost there.. But my 980 gtx machine seems to work mostly on wayland, except somehow minecraft only works on Xorg

Only because it doesn't ask me to recompile the source every time a kernel update comes in.

X11 has been mostly solid for me. Wonder if Wayland would be worth messing with.

As someone who switched to wayland way back when sway was dominant...? About time.

Crazyy!

Btw I am XWayland free since today!

I have a list of recommended apps here

Some apps need environment variables:

Qt:

• qpwgraph

GTK

• GPU Screen recorder, I guess

Electron

• Nextcloud Flatpak
• MullvadVPN RPM
• Signal Flatpak
• (Element, I switched to the Webapp in Librewolf)
• Freetube Flatpak

You can use xlsclients -l to detect apps using XWayland.

Some may even want to run apps through XWayland on purpose, like KeepassXC for Clipboard access or autotype. Lets see how long it takes to implement all the needed protocols.

Gotta resoect the tty. Consistently consitent

Should I consider switching? X11 just works and I’d need to rewrite all my config and I don’t really have the time rn.

I just set up xmonad because I was in the mood for change. Took about a week of tinkering a bit each day and I really like it. Afterwards, I was still in the mood for configs and looked at Wayland. There isn't much progress on Wayland xmonad, so guess that has to wait.

That's a common problem I've been hearing for almost 10 now - the software support isn't quite there yet.

I'm willing to bet that, like Linux usage statistics, Steam Deck had something to do with this.

Anyway, I wish I could switch to Wayland, but back when I used it it caused a dozen programs I use everyday to get very crashy.

Waiting for explicit sync support from nvidia but even then, I doubt I'll switch until I can enable tearing. I'm sensitive to input latency and playing on wayland feels like my aim is floating

Web is no display server.

Finally

Cool!

These days the unique use case X was designed for is very, very niche. For everyone else, Wayland is the way to go.

Anyone who needs accessibility is screwed as Wayland takes over. Let's hope we can still choose for another say 40 years. Then, I'll be done, and Wayland can rule. Pity those who will still need accessibility options though.

thats so pog, i wished it actually worked