tldr: I'm looking for something to create and share lists with my wife, but that also allows her to edit them, preferably with a WYSIWYG editor, on both our Android devices and Windows and Linux computers. To complicate things, I help to run a small music festival, and some sort of collaboration tool would be helpful there too. Joplin looks great, but I can't figure out the collaboration without using their server.
The longer version is, I'm taking my family to visit the in-laws, and was making a list of things we need to take. I have complicated medical needs, and my kid is autistic, so there are things that we cannot forget. I realised that a list that we can both work on would be better, and would be something that we could use in the future for things like medical appointments.
While I was looking for some software, I realised that it would also be helpful for the music festival committee.
I'm looking for something that we can edit on any device, and have the changes show up immediately on any other logged in device. I want anyone with permission to be able to edit the document too. Ideally it needs a WYSIWYG editor, and needs to be simple to use once it's set up.
Joplin looks great, but it's not clear whether collaboration is only available through Joplin Cloud, or whether it's available with a self hosted server.
Etherpad and Padland look good, but Etherpad doesn't currently have mobile support, and I can't tell whether Padland is standalone or needs Etherpad to work.
I'm happy to self host something, but the simpler it is to run and use, the better :)
I use joplin with nextcloud and it works well. It supports webdav if you have other solutions, or even local filesystem with which you can use something like syncthing
I want to avoid using something like Syncthing. It would be great for me and my wife, where I can get my hands on the devices, but for the festival, I need to keep things as simple as possible. Some of the users can barely use computers and phones.
Some of the users can barely use computers and phones.
I kind of assumed this was a barrier. Hell, I don't even have family using Syncthing unless I set it up for them.
Something to add that may help with the sync part (that doesn't require effort on end users): if you self-host something, you can provide access to it via Tailscale with the Funnel option.
Tailscale is a virtual mesh network and typically requires the client on every machine. The Funnel option "funnels" public traffic into your Tailscale network via a hosted domain name provided by Tailscale.com. Since Tailscale.com exposes the entry point, then encapsulates that traffic into your network, you never have to open a port to the world.
I set up Syncthing on my wife's computer, and she disabled it because she didn't recognise it. I don't know whether to feel annoyed or proud of her :D
I'd forgotten about Tailscale. I've been meaning to set it up anyway on my media server, so that could be a great solution. I'm torn between hosting at home or something remote, on the off chance that I leave the festival at some point and have to pass everything on.
(Sorry, I'm just adding this part to remind me later)
If I set up a subdomain to point to the Tailscale domain, the next person could self host and I'd just need to redirect the subdomain to their Tailscale domain. I need to check how the shared app / program would cope with that.