DuckDuckGo is down. Is there any info about it?? [EDIT: IS BACK]
DuckDuckGo is down. Is there any info about it?? [EDIT: IS BACK]
It's also important to note that ChatGPT internet search and DuckDuckGo are experiencing similar issues because they use the Bing API.
UPDATE 2
It looks like Bing is down, and all Bing-backed search engines are too.
https://downdetector.com/status/duckduckgo/
https://downdetector.com/status/bing/
I'm kind of surprised that the Bing guys don't seem to have a system status page (that I could find) and haven't managed to have any kind of status message put on their main page.
EDIT: This appears to be their official Twitter account, which is also silent on the matter as of this writing. If they're unable to update their website, they might put something there as a way to get information out.
EDIT2: This is apparently their blog. Nothing there either as of this writing, but again, might try checking there, as it's another route they might use to get information out if they cannot do so via their main page.
EDIT3: Yahoo Search appears to be working just fine, though my understanding is that they are backed by Bing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search
On July 29, 2009, Microsoft and Yahoo! announced a deal in which Bing would henceforth power Yahoo! Search, putting an end to Yahoo!'s in-house crawler.[2] For four years between 2015 until the end of 2018, it was powered by Google,[3] before returning to Microsoft Bing again.
Okay.
Now that we already know we are pretty much at the hands of one pupeteer, what options are there?
I already read about Kagi (apologies if mispelled) but I like to write as a hobby and 300 searches per month go fast.
What other options are there?
Edit:
For those who may be arriving now:
- Kagi seems to be a good option for an alternative search engine; it is a paid service, for which I don't have the €€€ right now. Many speak very well about it.
- SearXNG is a thing as well, to my understanding a decentralized search system. Worth the try, in my opinion. If it's something that is decentralized, it is worthy to support and divulge.
- There is mojeek.com, supposedly not very good but any option that goes against the monopoly is worth the try! I'm going to try this one.
- Brave.com is an option but is a bit shady.
- You should try Ecosia if you want to support reforestation efforts. Read somewhere in the thread it is part of the Bing ecosystem.
- Yep is a thing as well. Somewhere in the thread, a lemmy points they use the search results for AI trainning. So... That is that.
- And it seems there is a search engine by the name of dogpile.com.
- Startpage is another search engine (portal?) suggested by another user. I've used it before and like it. Read somewhere it somehow piped a standard google search but removed tracking and ads.
- and I just remembered Presearch.com. This is a really shady one (crypto warning!) that I suspect is a fork/collab with Brave Browser. I've used it, they have reward-per-search reward system (or had) where they give you crypto for every search. Good results, some that don't come up neither on DDG nor Google.
p.p.s Should I start categorizing these from "shady" to "worthy"?
p.p.s 2 Does anyone remember StumbleUpon? I know it was never a search engine to begin with but it was the best source of good internet content I ever got acquainted to.
Can we get something like that back?
Legit thought it was just me. I was like wtf is happening
Edit: searx it is then, https://searx.space
I was screen sharing to someone when this happened and they asked why I don't use Google when other search engines are this unreliable. Despite me explaining it wasn't the usual, It was still pretty embarrassing lol. Wonder if DDG has the resources for an independent index.
Still down.
I picked a good day to switch to SwissCow lol
https://swisscows.com/en/web?query=%s
Free, uses it's own index, focus on privacy. If there is anything bad about it though, please let me know. It can be hard to find unbiased data on search engines when you ultimately need to use a search engine to find the info, ime.
UPDATE: Bing API issues apparently ⬆️⬆️⬆️
Oh it's not just me, thanks for letting me know
So I've been ranting lately (as have others) about how big tech is moving on from the open user-driven internet and aiming to build its own new thing as an AI interface to all the hoovered data (rather than conventional search engines) ...
which makes this (and the underlying Bing going down) feel rather eerie.
How far away (in time or probability) is a complete collapse of the big search-engines ... as in they just aren't there any more?
Same for Ecosia
Ah, because of this: https://lemmy.world/post/15710639
I thought it was just me, I thought something wrong was going on in my Windows installation.
EA app is also dead in the water for me, my library is not loading. It knows I have 4 games installed but all the names and icons are blank.
Can't even launch the games directly from their own exe.
That's one of the longest outages I've ever seen from a cloud company.
Swiss Cow is down as well it sees.
Qwant is also down
🤔 maybe there is a lack of distributed fediversed search engine instances where:
- everyone can host a search engine for their very own pages
- everyone can crawl other pages and provide (maybe with permissions) the crawled data to other search engines (as compressed snapshots, api ...) or provide a search engine by themselves for all.
- such search engines can be ranked or marked with "has anti features xyz" and put into followable 'collections' per topics.
- possibility to add 3rd party rankings and filters, so that one can use only a subset of a search engine list that was pieced together by someone you know or trust, reduced by rankings or filters published by another one you somehow trust to limit the items in the first list.
then: "for software development i use linuz personal 'devel' collection, this way i don't have to manually click through big G's gigabytes of SpaMalAds they always only frustrate you with and i am not distracted with dyo stuff when searching for server administration things like 'puppet stages howto'. for my home projects i use my friends 'home of DYO' collection, i get more results than i need but get new ideas as well without seeing work stuff when looking up how to build a puppet stage for my little one. 👨👧 for kids its awesome, our school provides a collection including specialized search instances that fit learning, while that collection is also peer reviewed by a company that spezialized to ensure it does to not contain search engine instances that also index any unfitting content pages."
oh btw: no i do not have any info about duckduckgo status unfortunately, i stepped over it by myself today 🤷♀️
Using SearX instance and cannot find bing results 🤨
Startpage.com for now
Was about to post something about it... Apparently I'm one of you guys :'(
Looking forward to the Kevin Fang video covering this in a few years.
"down" meaning up but displays no results, then yes, here in central europe too.
It's taken out Ecosia as well.
Using https://searcxng.online/ instead for now.
Is it just me or is startpage.com also acting up?
Get on brave search, it doesn’t rely on bing and google anymore. It’s fully independent
works for me, homes
This is a good time to use your 100 free searches using kagi.com
Not affiliated - but after having used mine I started paying for it. No SEO spam. No ads. Just good search results.
