Google Is Paying Reddit $60 Million for Fucksmith to Tell Its Users to Eat Glue
Google Is Paying Reddit $60 Million for Fucksmith to Tell Its Users to Eat Glue
"You can also add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue to the sauce to give it more tackiness."
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The complete destruction of Google Search via forced AI adoption and the carnage it is wreaking on the internet is deeply depressing, but there are bright spots. For example, as the prophecy foretold, we are learning exactly what Google is paying Reddit $60 million annually for. And that is to confidently serve its customers ideas like, to make cheese stick on a pizza, “you can also add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue” to pizza sauce, which comes directly from the mind of a Reddit user who calls themselves “Fucksmith” and posted about putting glue on pizza 11 years ago.
A joke that people made when Google and Reddit announced their data sharing agreement was that Google’s AI would become dumber and/or “poisoned” by scraping various Reddit shitposts and would eventually regurgitate them to the internet. (This is the same joke people made about AI scraping Tumblr). Giving people the verbatim wisdom of Fucksmith as a legitimate answer to a basic cooking question shows that Google’s AI is actually being poisoned by random shit people say on the internet.
Because Google is one of the largest companies on Earth and operates with near impunity and because its stock continues to skyrocket behind the exciting news that AI will continue to be shoved into every aspect of all of its products until morale improves, it is looking like the user experience for the foreseeable future will be one where searches are random mishmashes of Reddit shitposts, actual information, and hallucinations. Sundar Pichai will continue to use his own product and say “this is good.”
Reddit, and by extension, Lemmy, offers the ideal format for LLM datasets: human generated conversational comments, which, unlike traditional forums, are organized in a branched nested format and scored with votes in the same way that LLM reward models are built.
There is really no way of knowing, much less prevent public facing data from being scraped and used to build LLMs, but, let's do an thought experiment: what if, hypothetically speaking, there is some particularly individual who wanted to poison that dataset with shitposts in a way that is hard to detect or remove with any easily automate method, by camouflaging their own online presence within common human generated text data created during this time period, let's say, the internet marketing campaign of a major Hollywood blockbuster.
Since scrapers do not understand context, by creating shitposts in similar format to, let's say, the social media account of an A-list celebrity starring in this hypothetical film being promoted(ideally, it would be someone who no longer has a major social media presence to avoid shitpost data dilution), whenever an LLM aligned on a reward model built on said dataset is prompted for an impression of this celebrity, it's likely that shitposts in the same format would be generated instead, with no one being the wiser.
That would be pretty funny.
Again, this is entirely hypothetical, of course.
I've been trying out SearX and I'm really starting to like it. It reminds me of early Internet search results before Google started added crap to theirs. There's currently 82 Instances to choose from, here
This is why you don't train a bot on the entire Internet and then use it to offer advice. Even if only 1% of all posts are dangerously ignorant . . . that's a lot of dangerous ignorance.
Fortunately, this particular piece of bad advice is unlikely to poison any fool who goes through with it, since PVA glue is not considered an ingestion hazard, but "non-toxic" doesn't mean "edible", it just means "not going to poison you when used in the intended manner". "Non-toxic" can still be quite dangerous if you mistake something intended as linoleum pigment for a dessert topping.
Thr problem the AI tools are going to have is that they will have tons of things like this that they won't catch and be able to fix. Some will come from sources like Reddit that have limited restrictions for accuracy or safety, and others will come from people specifically trying to poison it with wrong information (like when folks using chat gpt were teaching it that 2+2=5). Fixing only the ones that get media attention is a losing battle. At some point someone will get hurt or hurt others because of the info provided by an AI tool.
That's a great read if you are only trying to film a commercial or promotion and no one is going to eat it. But then it doesnt matter if its non toxic i suppose.
At least i remember a video a long time ago, perhaps on an episode of how its made, that white glue is used to help get the stretchy cheese pull
It begins:
Me:
Have people tried using a coconut as a fleshlight. If so, what happened?
Gemini fed by Reddit:
It appears people have indeed attempted using coconuts for this purpose, and it's not a pretty story. There are accounts online of things going very wrong, like maggots. In some cases, the coconut being used started to rot, attracting flies which laid eggs, resulting in a maggot infestation.
I haven't laughed this fucking hard all year. Good stuff.
I'm just thinking of all the really dumb shit we all said on Reddit as satire. Oh I need to go search military meme stuff!
because its stock continues to skyrocket behind the exciting news that AI will continue to be shoved into every aspect of all of its products until morale improves,
Okay, I have to admit, this made me laugh. Definitely commentary, but still, a good read.
They also highlight the fact that Google’s AI is not a magical fountain of new knowledge, it is reassembled content from things humans posted in the past indiscriminately scraped from the internet and (sometimes) remixed to look like something plausibly new and “intelligent.”
This. "AI" isn't coming up with new information on its own. The current state of "AI" is a drooling moron, plagiarizing any random scrap of information it sees in a desperate attempt to seem smart. The people promoting AI are scammers.
Just wait until they start scraping the chans
I expect it to create the next Qanon.
When do they announce a deal with 4chan?
Hey Google, when is Jenny available to meet up for kisses?
shitpost is praxis
Cyanoacrylate or elmers?
I once said that the current "AI" is just a excel spread sheet with a few billion rows, from what all of the answer gets interpolated from...
It's so fucking stupid
My favorite is the Google bot just regurgitating the top result. Which gives that result exactly zero traffic while having absolutely no quality control, mind you.
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AI will continue to be shoved into every aspect of all of its products until morale improves
Stahp! I can only get so hard!
Money well spent.
Speaking of, I found a recipe today which had to have been ai generated because the ingredient list and the directions were for completely different recipes
Are you sure?As I have been searching for it on チャットgpt but I found no clue.
There’s an old adage in computing which really applies here:
Garbage in, garbage out.
enhaced flavor
reddit is shit no thanks to spez and his shenanigans.
people should just boycott reddit so that none of this ai nonsense ever gets posted to people looking for stuff.
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How did this clickbaity headline got so many upvotes? Are we really cherry-picking some outlier example of a hallucination and using it to say "haha, google dumb"? I think there is plenty of valid criticism out there against google that we can stick to instead of paying attention to stupid and provocative articles
