Top 200 Defederated instances from the Fediverse (May 2024)

Some of those instance names are, uh, interesting.
- I feel like I might be put on a FBI list for reading this.
- I’m genuinely disappointed that Asbestos Cafe is basically forbidden now. That’d be a solid name for a hardcore alcoholic vegan bar.
- Jfc right? What possessed someone to make some of those?
- I was curious what freak.university was but it just leads to a 404 :/
  
  Based on some of these other site names, you probably don't actually want to know

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- Needs to be much higher...
  
  Should be first
- THREADS
  Threads is actually #7 on this ranking: https://fed.dembased.xyz/weighted
  Meaning it is widely defederated, including by instances that have shorter block lists.
  Anyway, that whole list is ugly.

Trumpislovetrumpislife, that has to be satire, right?
- Wait till you visit nazi.social
- "Any community that gets its kicks pretending to be idiots, will eventually be overtaken by actual idiots who believe they are in good company."
- Wait what
  Edit: I don't want to know

I have to know what the Detroit soccer team did to get so high on that list. Somebody here must know. Please!
- it's a big pedo instance iirc
  
  Really? I know they have a bunch of porn bots, I don't think I ever interacted with someone on there, just saw bot posts in my federated feed. I never noticed anything pedoish, but of course I don't click content warnings so I wouldn't know, I'm not interested in NSFW stuff on fedi.
- I was going to guess racially based comments about crime in detroit idk

I zoom in and this is the FIRST thing I see. What in the god damned shit?
- Didn't see that one. The one that caught my eye and made me double take was
  rapefemenists.social
  
  Jesus Christ.
- And it's above Threads.net. Talk about priorities lol
- Yeah, there are more further down in the list too. I was honestly shocked to see how many blatant pedo instances there were.
  Makes me wonder about all the times that instances like lemmy.world got brigaded by child porn posters. Was it people against the fediverse, or just shit leaking in from the blatant pedo instances?

As long as the pedo shit is blocked i dont see why u would want to defederate instead of letting each user block what they want. We need a user level federated blocklist.
- Anything illegal posted on a remote server will bring legal trouble to you as a server admin the moment it federates onto your instance. Therefore I completely understand them defederating from instances with a high risk of illegal activity.
- At least on Lemmy, defederating is also a way of banning all the instance's users from your communities. If you're constantly banning one instance's users and their admins seem fine with it, there's really no other way.
  
  I wish I, an individual account, could defederate from instances, like some way to block all those instances' users.
- Because in order to block content, the user first has to see it. If I were an instance admin, I wouldn't force my users to see any amount of N words and homophobic slurs, not even the once it takes to block it.
  
  Hence tge need for a federated blocklist.
- If you want to see far-right content and spam, join a far-right server or run your own, rather than trying to shame server owners into doing what you want.
  Admins are entitled to decide what they platform and what they don't. On top of that, the user experience of "just block 100 servers of Nazis and incels to get to the content you want to see" is complete dogshit.
  This "it should all be user level" is just apologist bullshit.
  
  It's funny seeing how being able to see and discuss these decisions being the advantage of lemmy and admins and then seeing someone talking about defederation policies being "shaming" lmao. A bit dramatic
  
  Did anybody say admins aren't entitled to block stuff? User just wanted a system to see everything and block what they didn't want.
  Fuck off with this aggressive bad-faith shit.
- Run your own instance then
  
  That would be a seriously cool route to take
- Looked at the list and did a bit of searching as well as checking the reasons they were defederated. Looks like the top one is basically a trolling group akin to GNAA or some of the proto 4chan or SomethingAwful shit for those who remember back that far.
  I can understand why overt trolling and possibly illegal content would be defederated.
  That said I would like to see more diverse opinions and sources on my Lemmy feed though. There has to be a base somewhere that isn't literal nazis but isn't open socialists either.
  
  That said I would like to see more diverse opinions and sources on my Lemmy feed though. There has to be a base somewhere that isn't literal nazis but isn't open socialists either.
  Please, this. Lemmy is boring as all hell. 95%+ of users have the same opinions. It's a giant echo chamber.

How bad are these that Hexbear didn't even make the list? Drilling through on the clickable version here makes it clear that the #1, poa.st, has the same basic content as Hexbear, but I'm assuming it's somehow way worse. Just imagine.
- hexbear isn't even malicious. hexbear is spicy at best. not nearly as bad as lemmygrad, which is outright repugnant in its overt hostility. hexbear users are at least CAPABLE of communicating, whereas in my experience lemmygrad users pull the animal farm squealer move and defecate on the floor before storming out.
  
  Hexbear suffers from the nazi bar problem, they're not ALL tankies, but they sure do hang out with a lot of them
  I just don't have the time to sus out who's who and it's much easier (and less massive-shock-image-spamming) to use an instance that's defederated with them
  
  "Naw guys, the tankie platform is fine I promise. Please let us them harass everyone again. ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ"
  
  I’m on hexbear. It’s a good community. It’s leftist though so conservatives and libruls won’t like it. But you can have a good argument and find like minded people.
- they're neo nazi pedophiles iirc and in the brief time i was on a fedi instance federated with them i saw one of them trying to goad a trans person i knew with suicidal tendencies to kill herself because he thought it would be funny. like its so many orders of magnitude worst its just completely stupid to compare them at all. Like here's some of the defed reasons from the top of the incredibly long list of instances that have defedded it:
  Nazi content
  \ Racism
  \ antisemitism, racism, homophobia
  \ Nationalsozialistisches Gedankengut
  \ Hate speech
  \ racist slurs, anti-semitic stuff, etc
  \ Nazisme, Transphobie, Racisme, Antisemitisme
  \ Admins are having Nazi symbolics in their profile
  \ racism, pedophilia, harassment
  \ Serveur d'extrême droite / Néonazi
  \ Repeated harassment targetting specific users
  \ Transphobia, Hate Speech, Nazi Symbology. Lack of Moderation.
  \ Homophobia, transphobia
  \ Hosting neonazis
  \ transphobia / homophobia / racism / queerphobia / nazi combo instance
- ??????
  Maybe it's been a while but last I checked in the admin of poa.st was bragging about being homophobic
  
  And the admins of Hexbear are relentlessly pro-CCP, implying that they're homophobic.
- Lemmy instances comprise a relatively small part of the Fediverse.

I visited a few out of mindless curiosity and ignorance. I have no idea wtf I read and now the FBI is after me…

Can someone give me a brief rundown on what it means to be federated vs defederated? New to lemmy
- Really basic summary
  Federated means that instances are connected, i.e. lemmy.world accounts and posts can interact with sh.itjust.works ones.
  Defederated means that one of the instances is blocked by the other, so all communication between the two is blacklisted.
  
  Oh okay, that makes sense. And I'm assuming "Defederations" in the image is like the number of accounts in that defederated group?

What is varishangout..net? Initially read it as yarishangout.net and wondered why a space for Toyota Yaris owners got defedded. Also wondering how stereophonic.space got defedded?
- Probably unmodded and open to automated signups leading to troll and bot infestations.

You thankfully appear to have not been exposed to a "proper" hexbear thread where all they can do to communicate is call you a shitlib for doing things like acknowledging genocide.
- .ml is the same
- Do you have examples? I am not doubting, since I've seen loads of people saying it. But I've never come across it myself.
  
  I have the entire instance blocked in my client, so I can't even go searching for a thread for you. But if you don't, it should be incredibly easy to poke the hexbear, so to speak. Lemme grab you a link...
  Here, this one should work. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
  Find an appropriate sublemmy on Hexbear and post this, ideally in a context that explicitly declares you oppose genocide. You'll get nothing but the following in your thread:
  Accusations that you are a "shitlib". Any attempt by you to find out what this word means will result in additional mockery.
  Denials of the Uyghur genocide.
  Adoration of the CCP, especially Xi Jinping (but Hexbear likes any authoritarian tyrant in China, so any CCP politician may end up adulated).
- You mean like all the biden supporters on here defending his support for genocide?

Yeah? Can you provide even 1 example of someone on Hexbear posting something a) civil and b) not fascist?
- https://hexbear.net/post/2648774?scrollToComments=false
  Their top stickied post seems to be a biography of a 19th century French anarchist. That's about as 10/10 wholesome chungus as it gets.
  Past that, the front page is mostly full of screenshots of other social media posts mixed in with the occasional news item.
  This guy is asking for help meeting people because he's an introvert.
  This is a meme about the Roman Empire being a vector for olive trees.
  Like, this isn't a difficult challenge.

How can anyone read any of this? The graphic is unreadable to me.
- Some mobile clients open the thumbnail version of images. If you instruct your client to open the image in a browser, you'll see that the url has thumbnail instructions appended to the end and those can be trimmed off of the end to show the full image.
  
  What mobile clients are those and why are people using them? The image displays perfectly in Voyager.
- On sync at least if you open tall images from the post it will be readable.
- On the website you can zoom.
- I'm using Voyager. I can zoom in on the image

The only things I know about Kiwifarms is that it was a federated instance and that Cloudflare got flak for not taking them down sooner.

Wow, there’s a lot more pedophilia stuff on there than I initially realized. Really blatant shit too? I’m surprised that’s even allowed without the feds cracking down on it immediately, because the whole point of ActuvityPub is that everything is open. So how the hell do the pedos manage to hide their tracks?

Now I have to use a second account to visit the fine folks at #freecumextremist

Why is truthsocial.com so far down?
- I think it doesn't federate to begin with, so there's no need to defed.
  
  If it doesn't federate, then who's defederating it?
  
  I think it is built using activitypub. Its essentially a mastodon server that has all incoming servers blocked.
- I'd guess because it's a pump and dump scam designed to bilk gullible people?

lol. I'm pawoo user
- describe pawoo to me
  
  Decided to check it out to figure out what was going on. There's 'anime women look young' and then there's straight up lolicon. DO NOT the pawoo
  Edit : There were also like celebrity deepfakes, but that really feels like an afterthought
  
  Sinful

- It doesn't seem like a particularly social activity

Is this your overview? If so maybe you could decode some of the punycode in the domains
- I see one up there, срёт[.]онлайн, "shit dot online"
  
  Weird, nr 86 doesn't seem to be decoded.

What's the problem with blob.cat ?

Good that threads.net is in top 50 but I would've liked to see it higher. Right now it is at 39th place.
Edit: Also what is the source for the picture?
_Anti _{Commercial-AI} _license _(CC _BY-NC-SA _4.0)
- https://fed.dembased.xyz/scoreboard?blocked=200
  
  Thank you.
  For me a lot of the interesting part isn't which instances are being defederated, but why. Giving a quick glance, most defed reasons seem to be fairly sensible, with only a few being assumptive or outright idiotic (like blanket top domain defederation).
  
  I like that clicking on the instance shows the reason given (if any) for each defederation.
  
  Thx.
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- What's up with the downvotes?
  
  It's so weird.
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  The anti-commercial useless link.
  
  AI simps. There's more and more of them on the fediverse, for some reason. They're getting a bit less active on Mastodon, as Elongated Muskrat is also being an AI fan.
  
  No clue.
  My theories:
  A lot of people like threads.net
  They don't like I asked for a source
  Or they don't like the copyleft license
  Because that's literally all the information my comment gives.
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- Higher than the blatant pedo instances? Those are too far down on the list, tbh.

sign up to a non pedo instance that list and you'll actually see and talk about stuff instead of having a leftoid circle jerk.
- Yeah, lovely conversations about how jews control the world, how non-whites are destroying the world, how "certain people" being genocided wouldn't be bad
  
  I accept your concession.

#2 represent! Getting defederated is street cred. If crybabies don't like you you're doing something right.
I don't mess with fedi anymore though, besides dicking around on here. Socially I'm all about Nostr now, it's the future of the non corpo social media, federated network architecture is simply too prone to abuse.
- Nostr will just end up like voat
  
  Is Voat still a thing? Let's check...
  Edit: nope. Gone. Good.
  
  I think "#2 represent" is referring to their membership at freespeechextremist, so they are likely looking forward to wallowing in a festering cesspool of hatred.
  
  Lmao I remember going all in on Voat for like 2 days before I realized everyone else there was a nazi
  
  That's actually nor possible because there's no global feed. Your network is what you make of it. I'm not a fan of voat types so I don't interact with them online all that often.
  It's interesting, the people that tell you that they're in the majority somehow also believe that online spaces that are left for open discussion don't wind up the way they want them to, almost as if they're a minority.
- What's are a good three websites that you recommend using the protocol?
  
  damus.io, snort.social and coracle.social seem to he popular sites, but nostr isn't sites like the fediverse is. It's a network made up of relays and clients, and the clients can be web clients or they can be applications on your phone or computer. I'm partial to client applications, but to dip your toes in going to a web client like the ones above work good.