Dude Obama isn't that strange to me. He was seriously THE PERFECT "Black Man" and his family was a shining example of a perfect black family.
I dont mean to diminish what having a black man as president for two terms meant for many people around the country, small ripples possibly making it to the farthest reaches of the world. but come on. I'm white and at the time not particularly invested so much and even still I got the impression most of his energy was spent appeasing his peers who did not like him. And LBR that's gonna be all Republicans and the media outlets they influence , as well as the unique flavor of racist bigot that only a democrat/white person who loves you can provide.
You seem to be (purposefully) construing "the US is a racist country" as "the US is the most racist country". Racism does exist in other countries, and gets very bad in other countries as well, but the US is still fundamentally a racist country that pours a lot of resources into working against ethnic and racial minorities.
"White people would never let a black felon be president" is the point here because it constrasts with the current situation, which is "white people are letting a white felon be president" (at least it's a very real possibility). It's pointing out the discriminatory behaviours/thoughts persistent in American society, a felon being black is given significantly less leniency than a felon being white, and in general a black person is treated far worse and given far more obstacles than a white person for the same reasons. Especially by the majority racial demographic (white people). Any black candidate in Trump's position would be completely ruined and practically out of the race already, not celebrated by half the country.
The US is systematically racist, whereas we Finns for instance — at least in comparison — aren't as much, but I'd bet there's a lot more casual racism where I live than in any decently sized city in the US.
Not to mention that many black people are also more than willing to overlook crimes as long as it's someone famous; see the OJ trials, R. Kelly, Drake, the list goes on.
So maybe it's not a race thing, but just a shitty humanity thing?
Yeah, they loved saying that he caused riots. It really removes the credibility of when they say other protesters are rioting. It's almost like they don't care how they behave and instead care about what they're asking for (and if they're "in their place").
Nah man go look at a lot of these clowns in the hate groups and you’ll see a lot of them are not even white. That leader of Proud Boys wasn’t even white. These are different days my friend.
Also every Republicans were tough on crime until Trump was convicted
Their still tough on crime, unless it's their candidate tried and convicted in a way that might impact an election - then he's not a "convicted felon" he's a "political prisoner", at least according to right wing Twitter.
His being rich and white probably has a lot to do with that too. Though I imagine if he were tried and convicted this time last year there'd be at least a little less crying about it, they'd just push Ron or Nikki as their candidate instead. His not being convicted until he's the only candidate and it's essentially too late to really run anyone else instead makes it "feel" more like it's using the criminal courts as a political attack vector rather than criminal justice doing it's normal thing, regardless of whether or not that's true.
It just about arguing in bad faith. You start with a conclusion you want in your mind, and then invent palatable excuses as to why that conclusion must be true.
It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts, just premise and emotion.
This is why playing the "Gotcha!" game with Republicans doesn't work, it's not that they have a flawed understanding of the world (They do, but that's not the point), it's that they will not interact with anything that isn't the conclusion they want.
It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts
I've seen a few logical routes. I just don't like where they ended.
"The Road to Serfdom", "Free to Choose", "Human Action", "7 Habits of Highly Effective People", and "God and Man at Yale" all spell out a coherent and concrete conservative ideology. But where do those thoughts ultimately terminate?
We get to an ecology strip minded to its foundation in pursuit of that next quarter of profit. We get a patriarchal household bordering on the autocratic. We get ethnic micro-states, forever at war with one another over every sleight or perceived grievance or heresy. We get cults of personality who drive self-aggrandized individuals this way and that in pursuit of some reward in the afterlife. We get a police state armed to the teeth lined up in front of a loudspeaker that insists we're all entitled to unlimited freedom.
The logic is sound, because the axioms are built to inform us that these outcomes are what we want. This is the best of all possible worlds, the most we can ever hope for. And if we are dissatisfied with our lots in life, it is only because we failed in our commitment to pursue the ideology to its logical ends.
If anything, I would argue that modern conservatism is too logical. It is a rigid algorithm that refuses to acknowledge anything outside of its program and initial parameters. Conservatism is the logic of a boulder hurtling down a hill and into a vast sea, all the while telling the folks captured within "This is the natural way of things and could never have been improved in the slightest."
It is the illogical utopian leftists who are charged with fishing the big rock out of the ocean and trying to push it back up the hill again.
Basically every nation in the world was built on those things - for most of them it just happened long enough ago that we ignore it. That and America imported most of it's slaves and relocated the locals rather than enslaving or absorbing them.
I disagree. If another Obama ran today who was a felon they could probably win the democratic vote. If Obama himself was convicted of a felony before his 2nd term he'd probably still win against Romney.
Anyway, regardless of whether white people would ever "let" a black felon be president (what a garbage fucking tweet), one could still get a lot of votes.