Fairphone 5 Released

That's what the SoC supports. Let's see what the phone ends up supporting. But I agree, it does sound fun.

If you're savvy enough to buy a Fairphone you likely have a gajillion USB-C cables and adapters laying around. I appreciate them not generating more waste.

How is that bad? Go to your drawer and use one of the dozens you'll have accumulated over the years

We are long past the days of proprietary charging ports on phones, my guy. You can use any charger that came with any phone you've owned in the past like 10 years.

It's nice to have a decent camera, but honestly, 90% of the people (including myself) are so bad at taking pictures, that the difference between mid range and ultra premium is almost zero.

The only thing that's really really cool is night mode. My Pixel can take really great photos with extremely low light levels.

I don't post on social media either, but my phone have replaced the compact camera that I used to pack for family vacations.

I suspect that's what most people use their phone camera phone: to take personal photos that will only be shared with family members.

My socially isolated self rarely if ever needs to take a single picture. I'm doing perfectly fine with the base camera that my old devices came with.

In terms of BOM the cameras usually aren't even that much. It's just one factor that allows them to differentiate "premium" phones they can gouge more for.

Nice, I still had this in my browsing-history: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/operating-systems-for-fairphones/11425

What are you currently running? Just curious what non-android and non-ios is working well for you.

While unfortunate, not shipping these standard Google apps is not really an option for any Android manufacturer due to Google requirements. Including them is required if you want to use anything from the GSM, which includes things like the Play Store and everything it touches. You can technically ship a different Android distribution like Lineage or /e/, but that's not really what most people will be expecting of an "Android" phone and will narrow the viable target demographic even more than the value proposition already does.

As a side note, Google Messages replaced the recently discontinued AOSP SMS messaging app

Yeah that would be nice, unluckily it's been discontinued and whenever I find one on the secondary market the price is prohibitive...

People want big phones for some reason

Bigger battery, better for content consumption and overall usage if you use it frequently. It's not that weird, yet you treat it as if we were talking about aliens.

I don't think that we are very few, I mean look at the upvotes...
It's just the market that is going the other direction and we just take it instead of spending a little bit of time looking for other solutions.

It's so frustrating that this is true. I use devices until they're dead or at risk of serious compromise before getting another, but the only options are ones that I can't even hold comfortably with one hand. I'm seriously considering the Jelly 2 at this point.

I picked up a 13 Mini back in March, and will ride this bad boy for as long as I can, in the hope that Apple eventually release another Mini model.

So perhaps it’s true that we hold onto our little phones for longer, primarily because we’re waiting for another little phone to come along.

For the FP4 they said one of the reasons they remove the aux input was that more people asked them to reduce the size of their phone than to keep the input.

Also it's 3x cheaper than my pentium that i bought in 1997 and it has 3000x less ram than this. I know that we don't have that kind of exponential growth of hardware like we had 10 years ago, but still there is progress and it's expected to have a better product for the same price each generation.

Nice 👍

Millions of people could afford this phone, they just don't care about ethics.

Instead the Samsung S's, Folds and iPhones sell by the tens of millions because they are trendy and give more "bang for the buck".

There is an official subscription called Fairphone Easy being offered in the Netherlands exclusively. For other European counties there's Commown, but it's pretty expensive.

At that link:

Are you looking for the new Fairphone 5? It is not yet available in your market.

It's not bigger, it's even a bit thinner than fairphone 4. Screen is slightly bigger though

Why wouldn't they? Their goal is to create a fair phone. Not a niche phone for a few geeks.

Yes, and I'm still a little surprised, even after the 4.

Are they really aiming for mainstream consumers? Because, I don't know, but I don't think they reach mainstream people at all.
Who they reach is those who are explicitly searching for this kind, techies, and they also have pretty different needs than the mainstream.

I mean, I think it's ok that they are making phones like these.
But what's weird is that they are not making phones for techies, who are their current audience, as I see.
I understand that it's costly to have different variants, but at least there would be 2 or 3, which are actually distinct in their features, for the different audiences. No need for different SoC, but like there's this one for the mainstream when that catches on. But then another for techies with jack, a smaller and normal screen (which means square, without camera hole, front camera is distinct if there at all) and less cameras on the back, maybe other diffs too like IR blaster or double sim and microSD. It could also have a different look, like shiny instead of glossy. I mean, it's a different audienve, the preferred looks will be most probably be different too.. and while I don't dislike how the non-screen parts of the 5 look like, it's not my cup of tea.

And not including charger which you of course can buy for extra €25. It would be fair if the charger was free with every phone. Make it optional if you want to claim it's because of environment, but make it free if someone wants it with your phone.

Thanks! Yeah, it looks like it covers T-mobile minus the GHZ/ mmWave bands, which is good for me. A solid consider, especially if they (eventually) drag it over to the states like the Fairphone 5.

I know what you mean, but because you've allowed yourself to miss my point completely - I'll do the same.

No, it is not, in fact, better. Nothing would be better, because we would not have a false impression of the situation.

a day after the

b) is not already given. The only company that brought the FP4 to the US loads it with /e/.

Well yes. But I want a NEW phone

It doesn't have a 3,5mm jack or a microsd slot

Does OtterBox make cases for Fairphone?

Doesn't seem like there are any waterproof cases for the 4, so I doubt we will see any for the 5. Maybe more likely now that the phone is available in the US at least. Not a fan of the waterproof bag idea myself.

At least my tank bag has the option for a waterproof cell phone pocket though, I doubt the touch screen would work through the thick plastic. Never tried it because I don't have the pouch required to keep the phone in place on the bag.

Nah these glue shut phones are pain in ass. Phones need battery replacement after 3 years don't want to go to a service center for a simple job.