Tankies are such vile people

"The Holodomor was caused by selfish kulak farmers and the real victims were the Russian people" is the kind of thing I'd write to mock tankies, and then delete because I thought it was too on the nose. Jesus Christ.
- I’ve read that opinion on lemmy in the last week without a shred of irony attached.
  
  Hence this post

Man, these tankies are fun. They have been sniffing their own farts so much, it really isn't subtle with them anymore.
- 'Fun' is one word. Me, I don't much care for having these shitheads around. If I wanted to see animals flinging poo, I'd go to the zoo.
  
  Good thing is that it's just 3 to 4 accounts from Hexbear that spam this instance. Makes it easy to block them if you grow tired of them.
- Jenkem is a helluva drug
- You can even tell who they are if they have a gender pronoun tag next to their username. I get it might be helpful in casual conversation with these folk but the format of conversations here don't give too many chances for them to be used.

Every instance should defederate from Hexbear. It's the QAnon of the left.
- I literally stopped lurking and made an account just to block them.
  EDIT
  New Hexbear keep coming up is there any way to block them all or do I have to squash each one as it comes up? A big part of the reason I left reddit was all the ridiculous bad faith political arguing, I really don't want to leave one site because of mostly right-wing extremists to have to leave another because of mostly left-wing extremists?
  
  Lemmy.world is defederated with Hexbear.
  
  Sync for Lemmy lets you block entire instances.
  
  Kbin also let's you block instances
- see other post

This sounds like how antisemites talk about George Soros, talking about an otherwise irrelevant figure like he's in control of world politics.
- All extremists are the same from my experiences with them.
  
  I think there's value in distinguishing between extremists and people searching for easy answers. For example, I could certainly find you a few very moderate Democrats who nonetheless believe in massive conspiracies against their own ideology. We notice it most with extremists, in part because if you're gonna believe in conspiracies, chances are you're gonna believe in radical solutions to them, but the essential problem is that people want to know that there's a core problem at the heart of the world, and that it can be solved, in some form or fashion.
  Unfortunately, the world is infinitely complex, and most issues have many inputs, and all solutions have costs. Not equal inputs or equal costs, but still. But that's less comforting - that suggests you can do everything right, and still fail. Who wants to think that? So instead, they turn to conspiracy - of COURSE it would work, if only you got rid of the Kulaks/Jews/Liberals/Poors.

Holodomor was part of my studies In 2011. Blaming that situation on anyone but the soviets requires either some very uneducated opinions or serious mental gymnastics. Hexbear probably provides both.
The most favorable number to those who claim it wasn't a genocide is a death toll of 3.5 million by starvation.
To put that in context. The great Irish famine claimed about 1 million lives.
Ukrainians resisted soviet policies. Soviet responded by engineering a mass starvation as retaliation. Guess people can't resist you if they're too busy starving to death.

This sub will be interesting now that hexbear is federated with sjw.
- It's funny seeing Hexbears not understand how lemmy works. It's hilarious seeing them angry over dissent.

I'm old. What are 'Tankies'?
- As the other tankie poster mentioned, it is a very old term, from the 50s and 60s, when the Soviets sent tanks in to crush Hungarians and Czechoslovakians for wanting to be a slightly different kind of Communist than the kind of Communist the Soviet Union wanted them to be. 'Tankie' was the term used by many Western Communists to condemn the Soviets and their supporters, and many Western leftists subsequently split from Soviet sympathies after the incidents. Tankies are the kind of people who say 'Left Unity' but by 'Left Unity' mean 'Everyone agrees with us or gets shot'. They're cretins, authoritarians, and usually genocide deniers, when they aren't busy celebrating genocide.
  
  If the Hexbears could read they'd be very upset right now
  
  i mostly agree with this view although i personally prefer a usage of the term "tankie" to refer to any regime (or any individual performing apologia for said regime) which specifically used(or uses) military assets to systematically brutalize and slaughter their own civilians when those civilians dare to hold a political opinion other than the one espoused by the regime.
  The reason: this is a fairer definition that accounts for atrocities which are equally as objectionable without the pointless and irrelevant overhead of economic policy, such as: when Petro Poroshenko shelled civilians in eastern Ukraine for the """"crime"""" of living in the same broad municipal area as pro-Russian separatists. This bone-headed move is what gave Russia their (extremely dubious) Cassus Belli for invading Ukraine later. If not for Poroshenko pulling a tankie maneuver and hurling military assets at his own people, Russia would have had EVEN LESS legitimacy to their claim of the Ukrainian government trying to "genocide" the Russian-speaking populations within Ukraine. As it stands, thanks to Poroshenko, there in fact WERE civilians who died under the Ukrainian regime at the time, and whom also were native Russophones.
  (Frankly i suspect that Poroshenko was either a Russian false flag plant or a useful idiot 'helped' into place in order to undermine Ukraine and make it vulnerable to Russian takeover, and that he wasn't """"supposed to"""" lose to Volodymyr Zelenskyy in in 2019. Russia was anticipating to be carrying out its """"special military operation"""" against Poroshenko's regime, NOT some other guy who wasn't brutalizing civilians, and when that went off the rails, they decided "fuck it we'll do it anyway" and it's not working out terribly well for them as a result. But that's an argument for another thread.)
- Fascist leftists. Stalinists.
- it's actually a very old term that was recently revived. Khruschev intervened against CIA-backed fascist "revolutionaries" in Hungary in 1956. This caused a split in the Communist Party of Great Britain. those who supported the USSR's antifascist action in hungary were called "tankies". I'm not joking by the way. Liberals using the term "tankie" today to describe the so called "authoritarian" (antifascist, revolutionary, anti-imperialist) left are totally divorced from the origins of the term. It's just something they picked up. They have no insight into the historical origin of term in CPGB infighting.
  
  You exemplify tankie behaviour perfectly with your deliberate blatant lies and attempt at gaslighting.
  
  Do you have evidence?

https://hexbear.net/post/499076
- Wait, why is Xi as Winnie the Pooh racist?
  
  It's not. They believe it's racist because pooh is yellow.
  In truth is the meme of portraying Chinese officials as cartoon characters comes from Chinese citizens. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Chinese citizens to be racist of themselves...
- oh nooo they found us :(
- Should I thank you for reinforcing the point, or was there another motive to posting that link?