You're not wrong - The internet is, in some aspects, an inherently atomising and isolating thing, that is also addicting. I do think the pre-corporate internet was a significantly healthier (though also significantly flawed) ecosystem. And I do think the world sans capitalism would return to significantly more local and 'friendly' services, stalls, and public areas that would largely improve the problem.
That being said, further help, initiatives and incentives probably would still need to exist to coax people out of addictive self-isolation. I personally have no idea what that would look like - I can only wish I had meaningful experience and knowledge of how to coalesce people into fun joint activities - but it's an important question that should be answered.
I'd have to agree. The internet combined with the capitalist model, anyway. Bourgeois control and mindless pursuit of profit, regardless of the not-directly-monetary benefits of previous methods, was an essential element.
It seems obvious to me that when people idolise the 90s and before, they're mostly talking about the fact that there were still significant areas of life that had avoided complete atomisation. I don't think many people are really arguing the law was better, or that peoples' material conditions were super amazing, just mainly that it was actually slightly achievable to go out and TALK to people.
It at least feels, to significant numbers of people, that atomisation has significantly increased in the couple decades since 2005. And for all the horrible things you can rightly point out about the 90s, being able to actually have a fucking friendly conversation or a friend or two, basically on demand, certainly made it a lot better for people.
I remember as a kid we would regularly go to the town square, have a friendly chat with the baker, have a friendly chat with the greengrocer, friendly chat at the corner shop, get some advice from the ironmonger, talk to some weirdo while we waited for a bus, regularly asked people for directions, etc. All in a single morning. Because going out of town to shop was much rarer, we were known locally as a poor family, so half the shops gave us an unofficial discount and a smile. And all that didn't happen because I was a kid, it happened then because the bakery is now a chain where you can only order on a computer screen, because the greengrocer and ironmonger shut down, because the corner shop is now a supermarket and the staff change every week and they give 0 shits because they only pay minimum age, because there is no bus where we're going now (and talking on the bus is seen as weird now), because nobody is supposed to need to ask for directions anymore. These are all things that have changed just since the early 2000s, and whether they realise it or not, this is what made the 'vibe' that people miss.
The 90s could've been hell on Earth, but if you got to experience it with some fucking company, then people will be nostalgic for it, and I don't think that's necessarily wrong.
This is an extremely common .world take, you'd probably struggle to find a .world admin who didn't say it, or at least agree. Sadly pretty standard level in terms of their rampant queerphobia.
And for once this isn't even an exaggerated position. Moderation log backs it up in at least 90% of .world "Hexbear bad" posts. Almost murderous homophobia, nazi apologism, gleeful support of genocide, you can see it all in the logs from the banned posters who go to cry about how we're mean :(
To be honest I'd love if libs were politically learned enough to actually comprehend our position on the Russo-Ukrainian war, but the exact same takes were being had pre-war too.
I'd argue it's got nothing to do with our position, and more just that anything less than 100% accepting the US State Department narrative means you're seen as a fact denier, and soon declared a foreign agent KGB troll 'fake queer'.
Are we really doing Reddit style Trump-specific scaremongering now? He is just a typical member of the bourgeois class. He may be 99% or 98% Hitler, but the distinction is incredibly boring.
Yes? Have people changed their mind on that? There is very little difference I can see thus far. Randomly hinting at doing new illegal shit was basically all that happened in Term 1, and that's what this is.
Berry picking is no joke one of my favourite things to do ever. I work in tech but I've always said my calling was in berry picking.
I picked some wild garlic this year and loved it, we got raspberries growing up here, european blueberries will fruit soon, and I'm gon' go get rowanberries again too. I want to know more things to pick, foraging rules.
I always make sure a good amount is left for birds, animals and even the bugs I GUESS. But even then most of it seems to rot on the plant, sadly.
"the killer .. he's a closeted gay himself. They're the only people who hate other gays that much. Regular straight people don't care."
I don't know why you're denying saying that, when this quote is screenshot'd just up above. Did you intend something else with these words? Because this is quite literally you saying "that".
Hilarious that this guy just posted a thread accusing us of being an echo chamber without having to critically think. While literally parroting this propaganda without having the slightest clue, in the most echo-chambery way possible.
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You're not wrong - The internet is, in some aspects, an inherently atomising and isolating thing, that is also addicting. I do think the pre-corporate internet was a significantly healthier (though also significantly flawed) ecosystem. And I do think the world sans capitalism would return to significantly more local and 'friendly' services, stalls, and public areas that would largely improve the problem.
That being said, further help, initiatives and incentives probably would still need to exist to coax people out of addictive self-isolation. I personally have no idea what that would look like - I can only wish I had meaningful experience and knowledge of how to coalesce people into fun joint activities - but it's an important question that should be answered.