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  • If I can offer a counter argument to what others who've replied to you have said, in my opinion, season three of PIC is the single worst season of Star Trek to date. Nothing but empty, cynical fanservice, and the introduction of the worst sort of Scrappy-Doo character in Picard's adult son, Jack Crusher.

    People like the season because it's getting the TNG band back together, but the season embodies all the complaints that were levelled at season one, justified or unjustified, but simply has some familiar faces. Slop in a trough.

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  • This is my biggest problem with the left.

    Clown behaviour. Take a week off.

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  • Shut the fuck up and get out.

    This is not your place to tell people to fuck off out of Risa. If you see something bigoted, you know where the report button is. Throwing a tantrum does no one any favours.

  • Nah this sucks. Riker is the CEO of consensual relationships.

    Slapping some IASIP dialogue on a random Trek image doesn’t work if it’s not appropriate to the characters.

  • Q exists outside of time, so the iteration that visits DS9 could have been prior to the scene in the comic.

  • We don’t really know how much of Airiam’s internal organs remained. Unfortunately we barely learned anything about the character before she was killed to try and provoke a reaction in the audience because they showed us some flashbacks that same episode.

  • One of the Bajorans serving on Voyager wore an earring. Gerron, the young former Maquis that was part of Tuvok's boot camp in "Learning Curve" had to give up his.

    There's also Tabor from "Nothing Human", and Tal Celes from "The Good Shepard", neither of whom wore the earring on screen in the four total episodes they appeared in. Tal also had her given name before her family name, which is not the Bajoran tradition.

    Even Seska didn't wear the earring when she was still undercover as a Bajoran, and likely could have gotten away with it thanks to her closeness to Chakotay.

  • Sounds like a post hoc justification.

  • Tossing around terms like "pansy" and "milf," implying somehow that someone shouldn't be taken seriously as a woman because of their haircut. Nah, this sucks.

  • In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.

    Like they are in TOS?

    They also don’t look like klingons at all

    Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?

    and architecture

    Architecture? I don't know, the House Mo'Kai fortress we see in season two doesn't seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that's also fine, because architectural styles change over time.

    the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes

    And apparently, according to experts in the language, that's the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.

    they make ships out of coffins.

    One ship. The home of a cult leader.

  • Fuckin' jeepers, this is grasping at straws.

    There's no "lore" regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.

    What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.

  • Yeah, I like Disco because I think they're at least trying to do something, and that's interesting to me. They don't always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don't like it.

    My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.

  • What specific lore has been disregarded?

  • Lorca's not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it's no longer an issue.

    Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the Enterprise in "Subspace Rhapsody" he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.

  • But it's not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who'd been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that's the case.

    The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in "Choose Your Pain".

    Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in "Mudd's Women", the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in "The Nth Degree". The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.

    And we learned in the TNG episode "Schisms" that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.

    The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.

    The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you're not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.

  • The big one -- relatively speaking, of course -- in my mind is the site to site transporting.

    In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, ”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?” and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.

    However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.

    It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.