Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …
A charitable read is that it's only dunking on people for the electoral choices, but the racist comment history and shitty previous interactions I've had with this particular user is why I don't have any charity today.
They had me in the first half not gonna lie
that user is always occupying the ever-common Lemmy superposition of dunking relentlessly on people for being pro Palestine, but then if pressed will desperately act like they're also pro Palestine and claim that it's your responsibility to prove why they're not.
This one you're replying to in particular is also just a chauvinist who loves calling Russians orcs
I started here so as to get an understanding, going to remark on a few things I saw:
I don't think this is them trolling you, (...) ::: spoiler spoiler it reads like an earnest response and your reply looks like an overreaction. It just looks like you might have replied to the wrong person or misinterpreted the meaning of the comment? The comment reads to me as speculating on the reason for Trump flip-flopping, not making a value judgement besides calling the trade war with china 'dumbfuck'
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I'm actually primarily a .ml user, (...) ::: spoiler spoiler I started using .ml because I like to get a variety of views and everyones propaganda for a given situation so that I can make my own critical assessment.
I do hang out in their comms and even help moderate one but I've pretty much only ever lurked there to get an idea for the vibes and it feels weird to be lumped in together as me representing them. Maybe if you frame it as they have an instance where they allow comments (like mine) made by reckless individuals (like me) to be made without moderation it would be more accurate.
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Really not a fan of SA analogies being used frivolously tbh, but you do you- (...) ::: spoiler spoiler
The "answering questions" sticks out, because that's what they're referring to as JAQing off elsewhere- it's not a hexbear specific term, nor is sealioning, that's just internet slang. I didn't see this thread posted anywhere else on hexbear to drive engagement, they just have relatively high traffic and users will be showing up in federated threads if they're not browsing local.
I could just ignore it but I feel like that’s not the way. I don’t really feel like ceding the narrative space to them even if 99% of the people reading understand that they’re full of shit about it. I think most people have just moved on from wanting to engage with it.
I feel like this kind of tips your hand a bit for the engagement. I get the impulse to assume bad faith, I do it often and it's something I'm working on tbh. Anyway, might be a moot point since you're banned, I'll get to this in the conclusion, but I think you were being overly confrontational, also going in treating this as a narrative space to be fought over going is probably why you're going to get a response reflecting that.
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Regarding viciously imperialistic jingo in favor of Russia: shelling donbass ::: spoiler spoiler
It is verifiable fact that the cities in the separatist region were getting routinely shelled basically since 2014, I for one recall constantly hearing about that in that time period unless your conclusion is that they deserved it or that it was just crisis actors or some influence campaign something. Either way it's not jingoism to express that knowledge.
:::Regarding viciously imperialistic jingo in favor of Russia: opposition to NATO
Regarding viciously imperialistic jingo in favor of Russia: Self determination
conclusion:
I might as well address the ban here too:
I hope you enjoy my lengthy responses, I tried to summarize it from my reading and for what it's worth I tried to approach it as impartially as I could given the circumstances.
Христос воскрес!
I'll take a look.
non-paywall link https://archive.is/2VmLa
Admins could, now mods can for the comms they moderate
Not all of the countries problems can simply be attributed to 'the enemy' on the other side of the planet. The dysfunction I'm pointing out is home grown and enabled on both sides. The republicans are obviously worse, the democrats prevent anything better.
Russia is affecting those things in the us though.
People being unhoused, going hungry and without healthcare is bipartisan consensus in the US and Russia has nothing to do with that.
MS-13 or Russia
neither of those are real concerns tbh. Americans should be concerned about housing, feeding and providing medical care to everyone before worrying about external threats.
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accidentally waste their time making mean comments that I can’t see
making comments people don't see or acknowledge is one of my favorite pastimes
fantasies
it was a throwaway dunk 6 months ago because he was complaining about 'not getting a meeting of the minds' when he was rolling up doing this:
If our exchange is anything to go by you probably gleefully fantasize about all your undesirables getting cleansed.
So is this where you hang out now that 4chan is gone?
Mid 2014 I rented a small villa near Varna with my partner, this was when there was all the sanctions taking effect on Russia. This was when many places producing fruit that weren't getting exported were just selling it for cheap.
It has been one of my most vivid memories, good food, coffee, hiking, swimming, with an veeeery slight ominous sense of looming dread under the surface.
plenty of anarchists don't like Trotsky, he famously was the one who killed many anarchists, before he found himself on the receiving end.
you just can't stop sounding like a Nazi though
the people there are more stereotypical reddit than reddit, and lastly I get the feeling that people that are banned from reddit flock there for 'freedom of speech' - translated, they can make misogynistic comments or antisemitic comments without moderation.
yeahhhhh
chimped out
here's you sounding like a 4-chan Nazi again, you really can't help it when you know you're talking to an untermench like me I guess
I'm not really familiar with the difference between rss.ponder.cat and ponder.cat. I was not even aware that they were different communities. I'm not a developer for this.
I'm not disputing that it looks like it could be retaliation, like someone with access just making the change because you were annoying, but I still don't understand why they wouldn't just ban your account like everyone else.
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I also notice that you’re extremely eager to assume bad faith from lemmy.world.
I'll routinely run into misogynist and ablest insults whenever I voice my opinion in those spaces. The egregious stuff gets cleaned up, but it is still there. I have run into some perfectly nice people who happen to post there, but if you're someone who doesn't 100% tow the line it's fair game for shitty behavior. It's ironic because that's what you've been pointing out as the issue with my/our behavior, but you're not willing to see it the other direction. I'm replying to a local on this very thread whose position is apparently that all who 'support authoritarianism' are roaches, which he goes on to identify as ethnic russians and 'tankies'. I'm an anarchist, I organize with anarchists, but apparently holding wrongthink is enough to be a roach
This kind of behavior lying just below the surface tends to have me put my guard up when I'm in a space.
And why is it wrong to call individuals who oppose self-determination for nations, support authoritarianism and deny genocide, scum and roaches?
I oppose patriotism and jingoism, which is why you don't like what I have to say. "support self-determination" is something that applies for kosovo but not donbass, it's just 'rules based order' in a trenchcoat.
It's wrong because you're using dehumanizing rhetoric for people you don't know and applying it (in this reply) broadly to entire ethnic groups. It's why I said you sound like a Nazi.
An overwhelming majority of russians support imperialism and a strong majority are genocidal imperialists.
“this is BIA propaganda”,
You never explain what BIA is, I have no idea what this is referring to in this context
Icepick
It's actually more of an anti-trotskyist invective
You talk about “greater depth”, what does even this mean?
I mean think, using your head, rather than whatever you're using to do your thinking right now.
So my orientation isn't generally to just assume bad faith from everyone, you can take that to be willful ignorance, but it's also just an understanding that people can do impulsive things or make mistakes without it being a complete indictment of everyone they even associate with.
I'm not involved with maintaining any block/allow lists on any lemmy so I have no idea how it's handled.
As it stand looks like it's working now, with allow list, I navigated to https://hexbear.net/c/diy_streams@rss.ponder.cat and it was initially empty, but eventually populated.
I really don't see the motive, I did see that it switched from ponder.cat to rss.ponder.cat sometime between 10/24/24 and 11/11/24, I don't see why they wouldn't just ban you and defederate if there was some censorship goal.
When I navigate to through another instance to ponder.cat it also shows up as (community)@rss.ponder.cat, which is why it seems odd and unintuitive that it only works with ponder.cat rather than rss.ponder.cat in the linked instances list.
I don't have any extra information, if this behavior that seems unintuitive is common knowledge maybe then it could be construed as retaliation, but to me it looks like a misunderstanding/configuration issue is at least as likely a culprit.