kreskin @ kreskin @lemmy.world

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No one can make a profit on people walking, so I dont understand how your point makes any sense.

edit: oh wait! footware and sports drink companies. OK, well, you've made some compelling points here. And we use small handed children to in America to make these shoes and sports drinks, right?

Newsom needs to learn to do less threatening and a lot more doing. We're all a bit tired of the sternly worded letter approach to politics.

Kissing ass to the right person to the right degree is actually an amazing life skill, from what I've seen. I never appreciated how much of work is simply people liking you. I thought being good at the job was the thing. Nope.

and wouldnt care if they did know.

I doubt many Americans could define "proscribed: without googling it. Obviate, circumscribe, auspice vs auspices, expatriate .. few people in the US knows what those mean either. 'Effect' vs 'affect' is barely understood.

The takeover of our government by Israel approaches completion.

not that long ago I believed a rules based western order existed, and that inevitably we'd evolve a global world government, sprouted from the UN and ICC. Just a matter of time, I thought. What a silly dirty hippy I was.

I like it better here too.

Rodney Cheng did a comedy skit on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGEAiUeiaKs

So I'm sure there will be a fraud charge leveled against Bondi, right? Because thats what she just did.

yeah, no more zionists.

The fact that Booker took money from genociders to be a foreign country's secret corrupt errand boy seems like a stain that cant possibly be washed off.

yeah I had high hopes at first too. ah well. Not our first disappointing lying politician.

Trump, Putin, and Netenyahu have practically made it mandatory for every country to get their own nuclear weapons. Nothing else makes any sense anymore, when you have hyper aggressive fanatics with nuclear weapons and the west does nothing at all about it. It would be governmental malpractice for every world leader not to have some as a deterrent.

you’re nieve.

I'm a big enough fan of the word naive to be a grammar nazi here and say to remember its evian (like the water) spelled backward.

@AceTKen@lemmy.ca

Well, I wasnt being "a goof". I think your framing attempts to steer this discussion in ways I dont agree with. Hence the downvote.

I also think commenting with mod privs is problematic for the conversation flow. You'll get more honest conversation using an alt thats a non-mod account.

You said:

since both places are commonly found

That seems an unworkable proposition. Besides Reddit there are few other large anonymous boards. In your coffee shop metaphor its like being banned from a michelin 4 star coffee shop and being told theres a hot dog stand on the corner that serves coffee, so theres no possible issue with banning. There is no seperate-but-equal to be had here. The Worldnews or politics subs here for example arent easily replicated with a new set of rules in any other small similarly-focused sub. Subs that get large tend to stay large and get larger. There is a natural monopolizing effect. So I disagree that commonality is any sort of reasonable basis for comparison. I recognize that this is debateable, but worldnews, news, and politics are core to lemmy, so saying those subs can be operated in any way the mods there feel they want to works less well as they accrue influence and become the core Lemmy product. I suppose federation in general is messy.

You also said:

If you are obeying the stated rules

I really do appreciate that moderation is a hard thankless task and mods deals with profoud hatred and human ugliness and bigotry. Its toxic and poisonous. So thank you for your service. But--mods are human too and they wield a ban hammer in a biased fashion at times. The existence of this sub kind of proves this point, so I assume you agree somewhat. Often some mods (not you, as far as I know) end up editorializing and stretching the definitions of the rules to suit their own biases. For a while it was trivially easy to end up banned if you said something against the actions of the state of Israel, and it was branded by mods (like jordanblund in worldnews) as bigotry against an entire people, and loosely equated to being against global judaism or supporting terrorism. Its also pretty easy for a mod to ban a progressive from pushing back on centrists, both here and on reddit. Or if you defend equality and human rights for muslims in general, or treat a religion as a bundle of philosophical ideas to be studied. This place models all the biases out in the wild, and they dont always effctively serve the noble goals of the carefully moderated forum that we hope for. So obeying the stated rules, as you said, is not cut and dried when enforcement is flawed. Its another difficult balancing problem that could use examination.

This community was built (somewhat) from a sizeable bunch of people banned or pissed off by over-modding and astroturfing on reddit, but increasingly lemmy has started experiencing similar disseases. I get it, the mods are volunteers. Its an ugly and demanding job. But saying its simply about users following the rules discounts the nuance of the conversations. Underenforcement or light enforcement has to be part of the modding model or you become reddit, which I sure wouldnt want. I have started seeing threads that are clearly being brigaded for fascist, Russian or Israeli memes-- same as the enshitification that took over reddit. And its not like I'm not wading through r/nazi when I see these excesses, these are purportedly "normal" threads. So, theres another difficult problem the status quo doesnt recognize.

To add to that, there are whole industry of companies built on the idea of steering social media discourse. Much of that is by employees of those companies becoming mods. On reddit you arent even allowed to bring up the idea, and here we just ignore it. There have been some mods particularly on worldnews who have acted in extremely biased ways and made biased comments and then deleted them. Most mods are great volunteers, but a handfull abuse. It stands to reason that some are paid to abuse and steer. Its easy to hide your tracks if you're a bad mod or paid mod. We users arent privy to any discipline or leveling done within the mod community. Maybe there is some, maybe not. Do mods police themselves? I'd guess not so much. Yes we see the modlog, but thats strictly a transaction log, insufficient to this use case. So, more problems.

So here we are, downvote explained. Not goofing.

Are they picking just one issue and pretending thats an entire platform? Thats not how that works.

Biden just flatly didnt do the job we entrusted him to do. Any reasonable person doesnt bank on a 'maybe' like that. In fairness, he spent half his time napping because he's always been too old and doddering for the job, so he didnt have a lot of time for work.

I'll take crabs in a bucket if you'll take humans with your heads crammed up republican rears. Deal?

yes, its the navel gazing voters who are to blame here:

128 Dems shot down the trump impeachment push recently. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-aoc-al-green-democrats-vote-b2776294.html

16 Senate Dems Join GOP to Advance Crypto Bill—A Gift to Trump’s ‘Reeking Corruption’ https://www.commondreams.org/news/senate-democrats-genius-bill-advance

A Tale of Two Resolutions: 75 Dems Join GOP in Resolution Praising Trump’s Mass Deportation Regime https://jonathancohn.medium.com/a-tale-of-two-resolutions-75-dems-join-gop-in-resolution-praising-trumps-mass-deportation-regime-15cf590770ea

Democrats join Republicans in sanctuary city crackdown https://www.usconstitution.net/why-some-democrats-joined-republicans-in-a-sanctuary-city-crackdown/

Dems join Republicans to boost defense spending in Trump agenda bill https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/04/29/congress/dems-join-gop-to-boost-defense-spending-00317618

Texas Democrats join Republicans to place citizen voting requirement on statewide ballots in 2025 after blocking the amendment in 2023 https://news.ballotpedia.org/2025/05/16/texas-democrats-join-republicans-to-place-citizen-voting-requirement-on-statewide-ballots-in-2025-after-blocking-the-amendment-in-2023/

7 Democrats vote for GOP resolution condemning LA protests https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5373771-la-riots-gop-resolution-democrats/

Four Democrats join Republicans to pass SAVE Act bill that requires proof of citizenship to vote https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/house-vote-save-act-voter-id-b2731102.html

Six U.S. House Dems join GOP in condemning Harris, Biden administration over border policy https://washingtonstatestandard.com/2024/07/25/six-u-s-house-dems-join-gop-in-condemning-harris-biden-administration-over-border-policy/

15 Democrats Join House GOP to Pass ‘MAGA Assault’ on Nonprofits https://www.commondreams.org/news/hr-9495-passed

Some Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down Biden’s EV mandate https://walberg.house.gov/media/in-the-news/fox-news-some-democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-bidens-ev-mandate

Most Senate Democrats Join Republicans in Calling for Corporate Tax Break https://itep.org/most-senate-democrats-join-republicans-in-calling-for-corporate-tax-break/

Sen. Elissa Slotkin is lone Democrat to cross party lines in vote to revoke California’s EV emissions waivers https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/elissa-slotkin-california-ev-vote-senate/

8 House Democrats join Republicans in voting to strike down California’s electric vehicle mandate https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-democrats-join-republicans-voting-strike-down-californias-electric-vehicle-mandate

Full List of Democrats Voting to Block California Ban on Gas-Powered Cars https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-democrats-block-california-gas-car-ban-2066890 https://www.splinter.com/35-house-democrats-join-republicans-in-declaring-themselves-enemies-of-climate-progress

Democrats join GOP to kill air pollution, appliance rules https://www.eenews.net/articles/democrats-join-gop-to-kill-air-pollution-appliance-rules/

House Democrats bash Senate colleagues for backing GOP spending bill: ‘Huge slap in the face’ https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5194414-house-democrats-senate-spending-bill/

10 Democrats join with Republicans to censure Rep. Al Green for Trump speech protest https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/politics/al-green-censure-trump-protest-house

Senate Democrats join Republicans to gut Dodd-Frank banking regulations https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/16/dodd-m16.html

62 DEMOCRATS JOIN 207 REPUBLICANS IN VOTE TO CONCEAL GAZA DEATH TOLL https://theintercept.com/2024/06/27/congress-gaza-death-toll-democrats/

81 Democrats Vote With GOP for Military Budget Barring Gaza Death Toll Citation https://truthout.org/articles/81-democrats-vote-with-gop-for-military-budget-barring-gaza-death-toll-citations/

16 Democrats join most Republicans to force administration to send arms to Israel https://jewishinsider.com/2024/05/16-democrats-join-most-republicans-to-force-administration-to-send-arms-to-israel/

Over 20 Democrats join Republicans in House censure vote of Rashida Tlaib over Israel-Hamas war comments https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-house-democrats-hold-news-briefing-after-censure-of-rep-tlaib-over-comments-on-israel

‘Deep sense of outrage and betrayal’: House Democrats react to Schumer announcement https://www.npr.org/2025/03/13/nx-s1-5327600/house-democrats-outrage-spending