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It is a bit weird that we use some fruits as "vegetables", like tomatoes and cucumbers. But, other fruits like mango or raspberry are so different from your typical "culinary vegetable" that you have to be very careful in how you use it in a savoury dish. There isn't the same crossover for other edible plants. For example, I can't think of any tuber that could sneak into a fruit salad unnoticed.

I guess it comes down to there being a lot more variety among fruits than other edible plant parts. Plus, humans have been tweaking edible plants for millennia. So, who knows, maybe the original cucumber was more "fruity", but has been tuned over the years to be more "saladey".

You're the one splitting hairs. I made sure you meant all forms of debt several times, and now you're trying to redefine what you mean by debt now that you've been shown to be wrong.

You also said:

Most people throughout history didn't even use money, let alone debt

So, why not just admit you're not well informed on this subject and leave it there?

That's just totally incorrect. Most people throughout history didn't even use money, let alone debt.

You need to read "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" by David Graeber. Debt goes back a lot longer than money, and has been part of human existence for as long as that existence has been recorded.

There is no human civilization without debt.

Na: I will BURN you! You put me in water, I WILL DESTROY THE WATER.

Cl: You can't even be near me! I will get into your lungs and DESTROY them!

NaCl: I will make your food taste better unless you use TOO MUCH OF ME AND THEN IT WILL TASTE BAD AND YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE WILL GO UP A BIT!

"Debt brained"? Dude, "debt" has existed as long as humanity has existed. You're the one who's "debt brained" for thinking it's a bad thing. That's just society.

In a society people do favours for each-other and what makes it a society is that the person who had a favour done for them acknowledges that as a member of that society, they should try to pay the favour back at some point, otherwise they just seem like a drain on that society. That doesn't mean that you can't also have gifts, it just means that sometimes aid isn't given as a form of gift, it's given with an expectation that at some future point the giftee will become the gifter.

Owing someone a favour is immoral? That's a weird world you live in.

What kind of debt? Is it immoral to owe someone a favour? Or is it immoral for someone to owe you a favour?

Is it only immoral if there's interest? If someone lends someone $500 to cover rent, that's immoral? Is it more or less immoral to watch someone lose their housing when you could have helped?

There's an expression "fish rots from the head down", meaning when the leadership of an organization is bad, the whole thing starts to stink. In this case, the CEO was having an affair with the head of HR, and was so unsubtle about it that he was caught like this at a public event. So, either the rest of the execs are completely unaware of what's happening around them, which isn't good. Or, they're aware and did nothing about it, which is also bad.

Sure, this may be happening at plenty of other companies, but those CEOs have at least managed to avoid getting caught. Why work for the one company you know is troubled like this?

I just looked, that was the basis of my comment. It's bad, in particular that "Laravel" thing was awful.

It's definitely cool to see when you get into Western Pennsylvania, for example.

Most developers are also not going to create a "serious backend service". Most are making a random website, or chaining together a few "business logic" items. I think we're just talking about different levels of "serious backend service". Like, if you mean someone making a website for the biggest industrial machinery company in the fortune 500, but it's all B2B stuff and so it handles at most hundreds of QPS, then I think you'll find a lot of Java there. I just think that for the biggest B2C companies in the world that handle hundreds of thousands of QPS, it's not exclusively Java.

I'm not trying to say Java is bad or anything. It's just that it has a few quirks (like garbage collection) that start to matter when you're getting eye-watering levels of traffic. So, for the most serious of the "serious backend services" I think you see Java, but you also sometimes see C/C++ and Go.

Java is a better fit. It hasn't fallen in popularity the way PHP has. But, I'm not convinced that serious backend services mostly use Java. It's one of the languages used, sure. But, I don't know if it beats C/C++ or Go. Apache's C. Nginx is C. Kubernetes is Go. Docker is Go.

I think Java has a niche with certain kinds of business logic applications, and those are pretty common. I would guess that in a typical set of interactions with a Google product, or a Meta product, or an AWS product, some parts of the traffic will be handled by services written in Java. But, others will be C/C++ or Go. There will probably also be some parts of the process that are PHP or Ruby or Python, and a lot of Javascript.

Ah, so that's the only difference between the countries?

And all Canada's largest population centers are connected to the sea.

Calgary and Edmonton are large population centres, and they're hundreds of km from the sea, and the shortest route to the sea involves going over some enormous mountains.

Toronto is technically connected to the sea via the St. Lawrence, but you can't exactly park a container ship in the Toronto harbour. I mean, technically Minneapolis is connected to the sea via the Mississippi but there's a reason there's no big container port there.

I also love that they didn't give her "boob armour". She was one of the most interesting characters on the show, and her own views of femininity probably fed into her character's struggles with it.

I also think Tormund being obsessed with her was great. Her whole life she'd been mocked for being too tall and not feminine enough, then along comes this wild man who is completely obsessed with her just the way she is. But, I'm glad they didn't do the easy thing and just make her fall for him, and then the two live happily ever after.

what?

        No, the whole point of bankruptcy is that your debts are cancelled.

  

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the answer was literally the sentence after the one you quoted.

No, it claimed without evidence that somehow a strike system prevented "scummy lenders", whereas the reality is that it would result in the scummiest lenders of all, loansharks.

I took a look and threw up in my mouth a little. That's not how backslashes should be used.

Instead of writing their frontend templates in PHP via Blade, many developers have begun to prefer to write their templates using React or Vue.

So... the only thing that PHP is really good for should be replaced by React or Vue Javascript / Typescript?

To each their own, but for me that's a no.

Where I live, I still see people in a horse-drawn wagon. So, I guess horse-drawn wagons never died? It's only used for tourists and weddings, but that counts, right?

According to Tiobe, PHP was the programming language of the year in 2004. In 2010 it was number 3 in the top 10 programming languages. It's now out of the top 10 entirely. There really isn't a language that has completely disappeared. Mainframes are still programmed using COBOL, Scientists are still using FORTRAN, even Lisp, which has been around since the 1950s, is still going strong.

Maybe Actionscript counts as truly dead, since it was tied to Adobe Flash, and Flash is truly dead?

I have a lot of bad memories of PHP. It was, for a brief time, the main language I used, but it was so ugly and inconsistent. The only thing I loved about it, at the time, was that it wasn't Visual Basic. As bad as PHP was, at least I wasn't making web pages in that pile of hot garbage. But, I never felt joy writing something in PHP. At best it was a slog. At worst it was like pulling teeth.

Just about every other language has given me moments of fun. Original Javascript was a mess, but it already contained scheme-like features. It was sold as being an interpreted version of Java, but it had features that Java wouldn't have for at least a decade. C is a brutal and unforgiving language, but as long as you're not working with strings, it's great to have such low-level control over everything.

Maybe PHP has evolved like other languages, but I still am not interested in trying it out. Everything it was good at can be done better by other languages, and those are languages that give me joy, not pain. I hope it keeps dropping in the rankings so that people aren't exposed to it as one of their first languages.