Anyone else see this thing? Personally, I think TE is out of their mind if they think it's worth $2300. I see the sentiment being repeated a lot.

The disappointing part is, you know it'll sell like crazy, anyway. Screw them for this ridiculous price gouging. Screw people for supporting their price gouging. I'm not usually a vindictive person, but I hope sales are awful so they don't inspire anyone else to try this approach.

Seriously, anyone considering this thing, go buy a Digitakt or an Oxi One and use it with your phone and take a nice trip to Thailand or something with your leftover money.

All the synthtubers are gushing. I'd gush too if TE forwarded me one early for free.

Found some really neat DIY Eurorack modules made with ESP32 microprocessors. I might try making a few!

My grandmother had a similar electric organ when I was growing up and I kinda of always wanted one. My neighbor down the street was giving this one away so I couldn't pass it up. I just had to clean the contacts on some of the keys. The pedal is for volume. 11 voices for right hand and six for the left hand combine as many as you want to. 4 rhythm choices, Latin, rock, swing, and waltz combine them together and there is a speed slider as well as a separate volume slider. There are also "genie" chord selections for the far left keys and a sustain slider. There is a huge speaker in the body of this thing.

My latest Oxi One - Beetlecrab Audio Tempera - Erica Synths/Sonic Potions LXR-02 jam. I'm not usually one to jam and instead plan stuff out pretty meticulously, but this set up is just so fun to mess around with.

Did anyone else see this? It's in pretty early development, but exciting! I'd love to see the Steam Deck become a M8 competitor. Not because I think Valve needs any more money, but because a M8 is so hard to buy and this would be a decent placeholder.

Or more! It's obviously got a lot more processing power than a M8. Hopefully it gets some decent synth emulations (Mutable's open source ones?) Analog sticks open up some interesting performance options, too.

The biggest drawback would be the need for some kind of external interface if you wanted to use it as a sequencer. M8's got it beat there. Mechanical keys are also nicer than the SD's buttons.

Maybe you know the feeling of still being undecided and fully committed to buy new gear. For some time now this is me with the m8. Buying just new gear is not my thing actually. It took me 4 years to buy an op-z and I am absolutely happy with it. It took me a while though to figure out why. Because I make music mostly in reaper. But the op-z is just so beautifully transportable. But it does have some drawbacks, if one wants to make music on the way, it's great, producing the whole song, not so much - you probably know the term dawless. Well, I was looking for "it". Tried the polyend tracker/+ and I like the tracker mechanism, but the polyend is just not as portable as one wishes for. Now I am trying myself on a headless m8 and it's nice. Definitely my go to, IF it would be purchasable in Thomann... I am just scared of the import taxes from USA to EU. Anyone here ordered one to the EU and can tell about any taxes?

Anyway, thanks for moderating this small community.

---------- update Well I was one of the lucky ones, who could get their hands on the preorder button fast enough. So in 2 months time I should have my m8 :D

I have been using my tempera relentlessly. I have in fact started finally populating my YouTube channel almost exclusively with tempera videos. I do still have Doctor Doctor lying around. Haha!

I'm the sole mod of our (I use the term loosely) synthesizer community. There's so little engagement, why not just spam it?

I'm waiting for a refund I told myself I'd wait for before buying an Oxi One. I paid for a car repair last year, and it turned out the part was faulty on all those vehicles, so they're giving me my money back. It wasn't a cheap repair, either. It will almost cover the cost of an Oxi One entirely. The refund should be here any day, now.

I've watched the number of Oxi One's on their website drop from undefined, to 8 left in stock, to 2 left in stock. Needless to say, it's a bit of a nail biter. Will my bank's sloth prevent my purchase and save me a bunch of money I'll probably just blow on something else? Who can tell? 4 of 3-to-5 business days have passed. I'm literally shaking. Haha!

I don't actually need the refund. I have the money now, anyway. It's more fun this way!

I've all but blown my tax refund on an Oxi One at this point, but I though I'd ask (if there's anyone around..) I've looked at the major contenders, and I'm pretty sure the One is the one for me. Korg SQ64 and Arturia Beatstep/Keystep Pro seem a bit too simplistic for my purposes, Hapax a little too expensive, and Cirklon, well, I'm not waiting 4 years or spending that much.

The only thing the One has against it is that I'm not really a modular guy, and it has a lot of modular functionality. The Hapax is probably a better choice since I work mainly with MIDI, BUT, I also don't have much space left and the battery powered, smaller One really appeals. I also don't really have that big of a set up, so the four sequencers of the One are definitely enough. Especially since I shall mostly be using it with a DAW and if I really need more sequencing power, it's there. The Hapax is likely quite overpowered for my purposes.

Am I missing any obvious choices? I saw a fairly cheap Toraiz Squid, but I'm not sure about that one at all.

I ordered one some time back, and it showed up two-and-a-half weeks ago. I've been making patches almost daily. Well, to be fair, I generated a fair number of samples before I even got it. Some of them worked out, others did not. I've been on the Discord with the creators, and they actually implemented a couple of firmware changes I suggested. Damn! It's an amazing creative tool with a great community behind it.

I'd write a full review, but that would take time away from continuing to use it. So much potential, so many ideas. I can't wait to absolutely slather my next album in it.

You can see some examples on my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3hZED_SAmcAeUGli_1Elew

Figured I'd start a discussion on favorite effects on synths. It's a ton of fun to run SQ-80 through the Hologram Microcosm using its granular function. The built in reverb really smears the grain clouds creating a dope ambience.

How are y'all using your effects? Good combo's?

This was a really fun setup. I just recently got the Intuitive Instruments Exquis and this is my first real Jam with it. The expressiveness of the Exquis combined with the nice flow working with the Circuit tracks made this setup very fun to work with

If you don't know what it is, it's two Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) sound chips (Yamaha 2612 in V1, and uhh, some other number in V2) in a small aluminium box with a boatload of faders to control every aspect of each operator, some LFOs to modulate them, and an arpeggiator/sequencer (I never use).

You might think it sounds like a Sega Genesis game all the time, but it does not. The LFOs really open up the 2612. It does some amazing performance tricks you certainly don't hear in Sonic the Hedgehog. But, it does those, too. Channel your inner Yuzo Koshiro, then make it sound like something entirely else.

A while back, Twisted Electrons saw fit to make the firmware open source, and it's wonderful how much functionality they've added. Looping envelopes that can loop from different points in the six-stage envelopes, new voicing options, a MIDI tool to change settings from your PC, heck, a couple weeks ago they added the ability to change the scaling of the envelopes. It came out four years ago, and the updates keep on coming.

Just so I don't sound too much like a fanboy, I will qualify that it is a bit of a janky box. Voice stealing is weird sometimes, and these chips are noisy and scummy sounding. It's probably the most analog sounding digital thing I've ever heard. I guess there are still a few minor bugs with the firmware, but none that I personally notice.

Still, it's only 450 Euros and eminently worth it.

Recently I've been on a hardware granular synthesis search (we're in a renaissance) and I love seeing how each box (1010music - Lemon Drop, Tasty Chips - GR-1 and GR-MEGA, Oddment Audio - groc, and the plinky and Tempera) implements their particular version of granular synthesis because I can steal their ideas!

I watch a tutorial or demo video, and they explain how the hardware works. I can then go and open up Notepad++ and code up my own version of their instruments in Csound. For free. I don't even have to subscribe to their silly hardware limitations, either.

It doesn't exactly stop me GASing over some of them (man, the groc looks sexy, though it's a bit early to tell how good it is), but it does at least prevent me from making too many impulse purchases.

This turned into a bit more of a CSound rave than I intended again. Seriously though, if you're interested in sound synthesis and are even mildly technologically inclined, I really advise learning either Csound or one of the other languages like Supercollider or ChucK. The only problem is that every piece of hardware after that is going to be a disappointment.

In my ongoing quest to destroy my bank account and prevent my child from attending university, I'm considering a Nanobox. Specifically the Lemon Drop because I've had a fascination with granular synthesis for something like 25 years now, and the Razzmatazz, Tangerine, and Fireball don't really appeal to me at all (at least not right now while I'm lusting over hardware granular synthesis.)

Up to now, I've done all my granular synthesis for free! Csound has a number of granular opcodes that are incredibly powerful. Sample length limit is almost non-existent, grain density can be cranked into the tens-of-thousands before it starts to become a problem, you will never run out of voices, and there are more tweakable parameters than you find on any piece of hardware. Even something like the GR-MEGA from Tasty Chips really can't keep up with Csound and a mildly competent PC.

So yeah, I'm not used to paying money for granular synthesis, but I'm also used to generating all my granular sounds with code rather than knobs and a keyboard. The thing is, the Lemon Drop only partly mitigates this concern. It's a tiny box with two knobs, four buttons, and a decent amount of connectivity. It's not exactly a knob-per-function kind of thing that will make sound design a delight. I like their implementation, but I could do just as well with code, just not as immediately. $400 is a big ask.

I do have a Microfreak, which introduced granular synthesis in the latest firmware, but I find the implementation a bit lacking. It's not terrible, but the limited interface of the Microfreak hampers the design potential quite a bit. I should probably fart around a bit more there before I dismiss it too much, though.

Anyone own a Nanobox? Are they really worth $400? I do have a birthday coming up...

Seems like every couple of months, I seriously GAS over one of these things, and then think better of it. It's getting harder to resist. The extra screen space, battery life, onboard mic (unless it's total garbage), and USB C connection make it way more tempting. Not so much the extra $$$ tho. Still cheaper (and better) than a Polyend Tracker Mini here in Korea.

I had a bit of cash, and have been working with a portable setup lately that is mostly Koala Sampler, my phone, a Samson Go mic, and a tiny DAC that is literally a USB-C jack to two 3.5mm audio jacks, one in and one out, and decided I needed some more hands-on sound design power.

In the spirit of maintaining portability, I looked to smaller devices. The problem I find there is that a lot of portable devices look like they're about as much fun to design sound on as a VST or app, so why not just spend a fraction of the cost and do that instead? I did end up working out some of the trouble I had getting Csound for Android working, which is great since there's almost infinite sound design potential there if you don't mind coding (which is how I mostly made music for the first 15-years I was doing it.)

I made a track with Csound and Koala, and decided I still wanted something more immediate than code. So, I bought a Microfreak.

I'm sure the copious firmware updates in the 4 years since it came out have something to do with it being way more capable than I had initially assumed (and at the time I was comparing it with Hydrasynth, which is significantly more capable.) It's got something like 24 different oscillator types now which cover a lot of ground from VA, to wavetable, to granular, and even samples now. They're all a bit limited since there are only 3-4 parameters per oscillator that can be tweaked, but Arturia (and presumably Mutable before them) made sure that those parameters are the ones you really want to control.

I've made more patches on it in a couple of weeks than I have on the Hydrasynth in a couple of years. (Mind you, I've made many more finished tracks with the Hydrasynth so far, so we'll see in the end.) It's super easy to dial in usable and interesting sounds. And yeah, you can "freak" out and make it sound like a university student first discovering LFOs, but I find that side of it decidedly less interesting. If I want cutting edge modulation experimentation, I'll code something up in Csound. The Microfreak just effortlessly does great leads, basses, and pads.

Like everyone else who has one complains: it'd be nice to have some onboard effects since it sounds pretty dry without them. Luckily Koala has quite a few decent effects these days. Really, the amount of sound design, and track creation potential between a $350 synth, a $15 app, and an $8 interface is making me feel a bit dumb over the desk packed with hardware I have at home. (Never mind the $1200 phone I suppose...)

This time its a more minimalist jam.

I recently got the Roland S-1 and T8, so decided to try to make something simple while learning how to use them.

Gear: Roland T-8: Drums @baseli+ 303 bassline sound. Roland S-1: Main bass groove Korg Volca FM2: "Melody" line

Setting up the triggers with midi should allow me to send gates to say an Erica Synth pico drum set.

I’m wondering if anyone’s given this a try and how did it work out for you? I feel like I could just play something in way faster than programming.

So yeah, anyone literally tracking in drums with your synths using midi from an electronic kit?

What got me thinking about this was watching this video from Drumeo featuring II from Sleep Token. Worth the watch if you are into drumming and percussion.

With all the talk of samplers since TE decided to release the ridiculously hyped K.O. II, I decided to finally pick up Koala Sampler. I've heard many good things about it, and for good reason. It's amazing! It's so immediate and fun and actually stupid powerful if you shell out (~$15 for everything) for the mixer, effects, and time stretch extras.

I dusted off my ancient sample collection and plopped them on my phone (Galaxy S23 Ultra) and am putting finishing touches on 3 tracks in just a few days, and just hauling it out to play with my daughter who gets a kick out of it. I even found a new use for my Samson Go mic which works with Android and has a headphone jack. It's perfect since the S23 Ultra doesn't have a headphone jack (fuck you very much Apple, Google, and Samsung) and the Samson mic is obviously much better quality than the (actually not that bad) internal mic.

My phone battery hates me. Though I don't really notice Koala being any more demanding than anything else. I'm just using my phone so much more.

The base version is ~$5 and very much worth it to check out if phone sampling is for you. I really recommend at least the mixer upgrade. It really adds a lot of functionality for another $5. The time stretch stuff that comes with Samurai (the name of the other upgrade) is decent as well, though certainly not as necessary if you mostly use one-shots instead of loops.

Namely the new EP-133. TBF, it's the cheapest thing they've made besides the POs. It's really the first thing they've made that's genuinely got me excited. I don't even have a sampler. I mean, besides a PC which is arguably the most powerful sampler in existence.

Cuckoo's demo on YouTube is pretty good, but I wish Loopop would get his hands on one. I prefer his manner of stoic tutorial-review over Cuckoo's also-OK giddy enthusiasm.

Made a place to jam and have fun while I learn piano and finger drumming in the office. Separating learning from playing has been awesome to have.

Edit: I promise I’ll post the music that I make here! Pictures are good, but I need to back it up with music.

So I just went a little crazy and bought a few hardware synths. Every single day since I have jammed after work as a meditative exercise. And some of this shit is sick (to me).

I’d like to be able to capture some of these jams. I have a Zoom F3 for recording, and I understand the entire recording process. My question is if anyone is out there jamming with synths, how do you grab snippets worth sharing and then putting that out into the community?

(I know the sub seems dead, but hey.. who knows)

Here's the main video if you don't want to read the article.

There's actually a surprisingly good basic description of subtractive synthesis(considering how new it was) as well.

Have a question about what synth - soft or hard - you should buy? Ask here! At least give us an idea about what kind of music you want to make and an inkling of how you want to do it.

What's on your mind regarding synthesis? See any good shows recently? Made an obnoxious noise experiment? Made a delightful noise experiment?

If someone asked me to guess what Korg was going to do next, I would not have said a full-sized, 61-key update to the Wavestate. Well, that's what they did.

I don't know how I feel about it. I like the synthesis engine: it's unique and versatile. It really nails those ethereal 90s digital tones with more modern modulation capabilities and sound quality, but it seems like such a niche thing, I don't know if it warranted a full-sized version.

Also, what's with the UI? They took almost the exact same layout as the original, and plopped a gigantic keyboard on the bottom. Now, there are huge blank spaces on both sides of the knobs and tiny screen. Korg really ought to have made the whole thing less deep and spread the UI out across the length of it. I guess they save on R&D by this route anyway.

Personally, I'd say spend the money on a decent MIDI controller, and just buy the VST if you really want those sounds. The hardware here doesn't seem like anything special, and the UI, frankly, looks awful.

I wonder if the Opsix or Modwave are going to get the same treatment.

Csound is my passion! I've been programming bleeps and bloops with it for nearly 25 years now. Short of one of the other synthesis languages (I've been meaning to check out Supercollider for years) no software, VST, or hardware synth can do a fraction of what's possible with Csound.

Lately, I've been playing with wavetable synthesis in Csound. The cool thing about using Csound for wavetables, is that there are very few limits of what you can do with those wavetables.

For instance, a piece I recently worked on I wrote an instrument that used a sin wave from a table with 16384 points between -1 and 1 for its single wavelength.

Inside the instrument, I made an if statement that ran once per cycle and randomly either squared the value of a random point or took the square root of the value of a random point (and made them negative again if they were initially negative.) Since all the values are between -1 and 1, this means they never go outside of that range, but they do either get closer to zero if squared, or closer to -1/1 if rooted.

In the end, it means the harmonic spectrum slowly changes in an odd and random manner. The change could be sped up or slowed down by using fewer or more points since the randomization is happening once per wavecycle. I tried some other values, but settled on 16384 because 8192 was a little too quick, and 32768 was a bit sluggish. (Csound likes its powers-of-2, which isn't a strict rule since there are oscillators that will use tables with lengths that aren't such, but I kept it simple.)

Unfortunately, for all its complexity, the end result doesn't really sound too dissimilar to a plain old filter sweep on a harmonically rich waveform. You never know until you try I guess. Ha!

Mine is without a doubt Loopop.

I get none of them are truly non-partisan since their livelihood depends on synth sales, but I feel like he truly leaves commercialism at the door in all his videos.

He has a very matter-of-fact quality to his videos. He tells you what a piece of gear can do, and shows you how to do it. He's always very subtly enthusiastic about interesting features, but never tries to sell you hype. It's like a manual in video form. Which is very much appreciated. I can form my own opinions thank you very much.

I wiffle-waffled over calling this post a "review" for some time since I'm hesitant to put much stock in other people's opinions on subjective matter: like whether or not something sounds good or has an intuitive interface, but in the end, if it quacks likes a Moog ladder filter, it's likely a Moog. Thus "Review".

Recently, I really wanted a Pulsar-23. Given that thing costs a whole lot (and is most likely worth it, it's an inspiring piece of technology/musical instrument) and music has never been more than a hobby for me, I ended up with an LXR-02 instead. I've had it for a few months now and have quite thoroughly put it through its paces. I do not regret my purchase.

It's an entirely digital, drum synthesizer. Six voices that you manipulate with encoders, and volume sliders. I/O is impressive for such a small box: four mono outs that can be assigned to specific voices in various patterns. Five pin MIDI in and out. Clock in/out for Eurorack, and a very, very loud headphone jack.

The voices are divided into three "drum" voices that do a good job on kicks, toms, snares, and cymbals if you really push them. Then there are a snare, clap/cymbal, closed hi-hat, and open hi-hat that add (and remove) some parameters to better imitate their namesakes.

it's in the editing possibilities of the voices that I find most of the value in this box. Oscillators, envelopes, modulation, FM (none on the snare engine), click (transient generator), filter, LFO, and mix controls are present for all voices. I'm honestly hard-pressed to think of a more versatile hardware drum synth on the market. I've heard convincing emulations of just about every famous drum machine that people have whipped up on the Elektronauts forums. That's good news. If you want traditional electronic drum sounds out of it anyway.

Luckily for outre me, it goes super weird too! The per-voice LFOs can be routed to any parameter on any voice. You can have an LFO modulating an LFO, modulating an LFO, modulating hi-hat decay for some mind-altering patterns. Yeessshhh. Melt my brain

The sequencer is no Elektron sequencer, but it's almost there. As of firmware 1.6 (the latest as of this posting) it's got most of the usual suspects of modern drum sequencing: per-step parameter locks, swing, ratchets, up to 64 steps including every step in between and per-voice for polyrhythms, and a few extras like Euclidean sequence generation (that I have actually never used.) What the sequencer does not do is let you change the timing of the steps for triplets. Every beat of the clock is always four sixteenths. Which was a minor disappointment given I like to make things in less popular time signatures. Thankfully, I can just sequence via PC, which is how I typically do things anyway.

Performance options are typical as well, except for a couple of exceptions. You can change the sample rate of a pattern, and the bigger one: the morph function. What this lets you do is seamlessly morph between two separate kits. It's as nuts as it sounds. It's pretty neat to have a kick slowly turn into a bell. I have heard the complaint that the roll function is limited to max 16th notes. Not an issue for my style, but it might be for others.

This is getting way too long, and I haven't even mentioned the effects yet. They're there. They do what they're supposed to do. Some are more useful than others. Unfortunately, you can only use one at a time.

There is a disgusting amount of drive. Each voice's filter has drive, there is drive in the mixer section, and finally, there are a few different flavors of drive in the effects section. For a digital synth, it can really get nasty. In fact, I'd say it excels at the harder side of things. Which isn't to say it can't get subtle, because it certainly can, despite the majority of YouTube demos being 140bpm banging techno.

I might miss the inspiring interface and ridiculous amount of performance options on the Pulsar-23 that I'll probably never be able to afford, but I really think the LXR-02 was a good compromise for me. Realistically, it does more than the Pulsar in terms of sound design. The inspiring sequencing part not so much though. At least I have PC for that end.

To cut this short with some shameless self-promotion here's a track I made that is 50% LXR-02, and 50% Twisted Electrons' MEGAfm.

Let er rip!

It would be nice if you commented on others' posts as well.

Welcome!

I think it's no secret that this place was inspired by r/synthesizers on Reddit. It's definitely the subreddit I miss the most, so I made one.

Feel free to discuss anything related to the electronic synthesis of sound. Your latest music project. A neato patch you made. The cool new gear you just bought. Whatever. It's all good.

Post away!