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I need new glasses. The only insurance-approved place I can shop online will cost $250 with my needs. I went to a "cheap" glasses website that doesn't accept insurance: $250. Yay, America.

The optometrist recommended seamless bifocals. I have a very painful nerve condition in my face (atypical trigeminal neuralgia), so this is what I need with glasses: the lightest weight frames possible- known as ultra light- with the lightest weight lenses possible and automatically darkening lenses so I don't need the weight of sunglasses. The cheapest frames brought the total to $250 on the site the insurance worked with.

The frames are $20 on the cheap site. Everything else in the cost is the lenses.

As for why I have to buy them online- I don't want anyone touching my face unless it's absolutely necessary. The exam was painful enough.

American for-profit healthcare is fucking awesome.

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  • I'm an ABOA advanced optician, I've helped with lens designs, I've made my own line of frames, worked with every insurance company, and know the technical details of virtually every product on the market.

    If it's going to cost the same either way, do not get the online glasses. The 250 in store is discounted from probably 1200$, and the difference is immediately noticable.

    The online glasses will not be measured to fit you properly, the focal point will be a best guess, which makes progressives have a ton of distortion, the frame won't be adjusted and have no standards of material and shitty spring hinges, the transitions will be an old off brand composited lens that will delaminate after some time, the antireflective will be the cheapest, smudging crap possible, and the lenses will be thicker and heavier.

    Go to a local optical, not any chain you've ever heard of. No corporate execs to pay means actual paid professionals helping you see better, as opposed to collision salesman trying to rip you off.

    Online glasses are for single vision rx's for children, not anybody who really needs glasses.

    • the frame won't be adjusted and have no standards of material and shitty spring hinges

      They're the same frames sold in physical stores, though

      the transitions will be an old off brand composited lens that will delaminate after some time the antireflective will be the cheapest, smudging crap possible, and the lenses will be thicker and heavier.

      My old glasses that I don't even wear anymore are 7 years old and never had issues and still aren't delaminated at all, never had issues with smudging or glare

      Go to a local optical, not any chain you've ever heard of. No corporate execs to pay means actual paid professionals helping you see better, as opposed to collision salesman trying to rip you off.

      And yet you still spend way more than you would at somewhere like Zenni. So you're getting ripped off for someone lower down the ladders benefit.... Yay?

      Online glasses are for single vision rx's for children, not anybody who really needs glasses.

      Complete bullshit. Not surprised that someone "with their own line of frames" would encourage people to go the pricier route, though.

      • I don't feel like quoting or typing out responses, so I'll just hit your points.

        1. No they're fucking not. Not even close. There's 200+ different manufacturers, and even individual lines from the same companies have wildly different qualities. I would know, since I work with them every day, go to several trade shows every year and didn't get my info from Google.

        2. Survivorship bias, and you just noted you don't wear them.

        3. This point is attempting to imply there is no difference in products, which there absolutely is.

        4. My line of frames is not a "big name", and was only sold in 54 offices in 4 countries when I had them manufactured in 2021. There is no benefit to me for anyone to go to any store other than the two I own, you'll never bump into my line, which I don't make money from anyway.

        I'm glad you watched a video once, but this is my profession and I know better than you.

        • No they're fucking not

          Nice source. Yes, they are.

          Survivorship bias, and you just noted you don't wear them

          Holy shit dude, anymore. They survived 6 years of wearing. I've been using glasses off the internet for over 10 years as have 3 other people I know, it's not survivorship bias if over 10 pairs of glasses haven't had any of these issues you mention.

          This point is attempting to imply there is no difference in products, which there absolutely is.

          You're right, the brand name glasses I used to wear have never lasted as long as my Zennis

          I'm glad you watched a video once

          Or I've ordered them and wear them regularly. Nice assumption though.

          but this is my profession

          So you're incentivized to keep the bullshit going? Well, I should definitely trust you!

          and I know better than you.

          Clearly not, as you said a bunch of shit would happen with these glasses that, again, I've never seen despite my and my wife both having our entire family order glasses online for the last 8-12 years (mine 12, hers 8ish). Oh, and friends as well for about the same amount of time.

          • If you can't tell the difference in quality between zenni and OvvO, lool, or paradigm frames, you're willfully ignorant. I wouldn't expect someone who only gets glasses online to know this since you have no experience. I however do.

            As for issues with lenses, I see 25 patients a day, and have for the last 12 years. I've seen a few more cases than you and your wife, or even you and your friends.

            Your opinions are not equal to my education and experience. I am literally an authority in this industry.

            I've designed frames and vetted manufacturing plants to find one that fit my standards for materials. I make lenses everyday. I troubleshoot and fix or replace eyewear everyday. I know what happens when a focal point is off center by 3 mm. I can tell when someone is wearing online glasses just by how the temples fit.

            There are a few very large companies that benefit greatly from pushing the idea that they're all the same, and you're shilling for them whether you know it or not.

            • wouldn't expect someone who only gets glasses online

              What part about "none of my online glasses have been any worse than the designer frames I got before" did you not read?

              Your opinions are not equal to my education and experience. I am literally an authority in this industry.

              Keep telling yourself that. So far you've only been a high on your own farts cunt spouting total bullshit. Frankly with how little of anything you've given but "but but but but I'm such a PROFESSIONAL" ive begun to think you're a LARPing 13 year old

    • Man, I wish this was always true.

      Here in BC/Canada, our healthcare doesn't cover glasses, and our 3rd party providers only cover $2-300 every 2 years for glasses.

      My last job had a $500 yearly flex-spend coverage, which I used to buy $600 glasses (mainly lenses cost-wise) with all the options/coatings/transitions/blue light filter/etc from the local eye clinic, and honestly the lenses are not great, and after less than 3 years the coating is bubbling in horizontal lines across the entire lens.

      Honestly though, been regretting getting glasses with the blue light filter for the past 2 years anyways, nothing feels vibrant anymore and i swear it has been negatively affecting my mood, and i have noticed zero difference in eye strain levels.

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