How many people have died from "supression" (whatever it means in this context) in the Crimea, that has been occupied for 10 years now?
And the next question - how come this number (is it 0 or more?) is less then the number of civilians (some of whom be Ukrainians or ex-Ukrainians) that died from Ukrainian shelling of Crimea?
Do you think people should have a choice of dying in this, very real, war, or in some hypothetical could-happen war in the future?
From the header of the article there were 2 soldiers killed and 2 civilians killed. So equal to amount of people that died just from the Ukrainian shelling of Crimea in 2024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2024_Sevastopol_missile_attack. How does it misalign with anything I've said?
move the goalposts however youd like I'll make sure I refute every single one.
Okay sure! First task for you: quote me moving goalposts in this thread at least once :) This has been about Crimea from the start, and you're the one trying to move the goalpost :)
No it's been about your nonsensical stance to end a war. Idealistic bullshit isn't going to stop anything. Fighting stopped in 2016.... And started again when Russia invaded a different part of Ukraine. But no, sure they'll never invade again, it's not like they've done it multiple times in our lifetime or anything.
Ed: no moved goalpost for me, my point is they've invaded before, agreed to stop and are yet again invading, thusly your point makes no goddamn sense.