Finally some good news.
Please vote for Trump, if you don't care about internal politics - think about millions of Ukrainians who are trapped in Ukraine right now, and for whom Trump's presidency (and his promise to end the war) is the only hope to survive!

So your solution is to lets Russia invade and not resist.

My solution is to stop murdering people and let them decide for themselves.

I'm sure nobody will be murdered or end up a gulag. No. People will just defenestrate themselves or die of natural causes with 2 shots to the back of the head. That's what double action means, right?

Well, if you are so sure in what you're saying, then there's definitely no reason to continue kidnapping people and sending them to die, they will all volunteer to fight because of the awful things that you've mentioned that await them if Russia wins, right?

Holy moly. It's as if you didn't have a slice of russian disinformation, you had the whole pie.

Please quote me saying one thing that is not true. Just one.

And another good guy advocating for murdering innocent people... :/

I know, right?
That damn lemmy.ml echo chamber where people continue parroting this extremist narration that it is not okay to murder people..
Let's get out of here, and head to something like lemmy.world where we can celebrate hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians getting murdered, cheer for continuation of war and call everyone who disagrees with us fascists!

Thanks for all the links.
Being called fascist (which happens a lot on Lemmy for some reason) when speaking out against Ukrainian government which ticks almost all the boxes from the fascism definition on the wikipedia (dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy), is a brand new level of irony... :/

Oh yeah, to forcefully kidnap people from the streets/homes, put them into vans and send them to die a horrible death or not, a truly tough decision we got here...
And please don't forget, those people for whom this is a hard decision are the good guys trying to save the world, while those who see this as totally not fucking okay are fascists, Russian bots, "want to take our freedom away and kill us", etc.

The other man already does, for two years, things that made hundreds of thousands people die, get wounded, suffer, etc.
You are asking how people do not understand that you want Trump to be dead because he might hurt people you love, surely with your empathy skills you will be able to understand how people might hate Biden (and perhaps even want to see him dead as well) for what he did (and continues doing)?
Or is it only sad when the people you love are suffering? The other people do matter, right?

Oh shit, this was supposed to go under a different comment, I don't know how did that happen 🤦
Basically there: https://lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org/post/1184/5077

So much this!
It's really hard to find someone here who can engage in a healthy discussion, it's ad hominem over and over and over again (not even talking about downvotes, as I don't really care about those funny nunbers)..
And I really don't get it, is it Lemmy specific thing for some reason? Why? It's so absurd, that I think even /pol/ despite everything that is going on there has better discussion to noise ratio.. :/

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about, advocating for saving innocent people's lives is being "twisted shitfuck".

Surely those who say that are the good guys :)

Eh, how fucked up this is...

People who support war, support killing/wounding hundreds of thousands of innocent people somehow really think they are the good guys, and call those who oppose war, killings and suffering "sick"..

What the actual fuck..

Negotiations are the only realistic way to end the war, and this is exactly what Trump is saying he will do - force both sides to negotiate.
I don't really care who it is "appeasing", I want people stop being murdered.

Nah, I'm just happy that people there might stop being massacred.
Now I know that's not a popular opinion for the last two years, and everybody thinks it's OK and every Ukrainian should die, but I still think killing people who done you no harm is not okay.

The slaughter would just be put on pause, but would last longer and become more dangerous in 2 years time.

This may or may not happen, nobody can predict the future.
That's why I said "there will be a slight chance".
With Biden the war will go on for who knows how much time, hundreds of thousands if not millions more people will die for sure and the chance for peace in the foreseeable future is 0. With Trump it's >0. So I sure hope he will win.

... Palestine/Israel ...

That's a topic for another discussion really.. Both candidates will probably continue that war, but one will also continue the war in Ukraine, while another one promises to finish it.

Celebrate and hope that he sticks to his word on ending the war in Ukraine (of course I don't trust him or any other politician, but at least there will be a slight hope, as compared to Biden who will 100% continue the slaughter..)