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Man who contracted mpox describes 'horrendous' symptoms - as deadlier variant 'very likely' in UK

news.sky.com Man who contracted mpox describes 'horrendous' symptoms - as deadlier variant 'very likely' in UK

The World Health Organisation has declared the mpox outbreak a global health emergency, with an infectious diseases expert telling Sky News it is "very likely" someone in the UK already has the new variant of the viral disease.

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For those that don't know, mpox rarely spreads outside of "sexual contact" so if you're not a sex worker or go to sex parties, you'll almost certainly be fine. And even if you do get it you'll recover fine as long as you're given basic care.
This isn't anything like covid.
- Incorrect. Not only can mpox be spread through the air via respiratory droplets, skin contact with contaminated surfaces is also a transmission vector.
  The fatality rate is also more than twice that of Covid.
  
  The WHO does not agree either you.
  https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/monkeypox
  
  Did you read the thing you’re linking to?
  It says:
  Anyone can get mpox. It spreads from contact with infected: […]
  materials, such as contaminated sheets, clothes or needles […]
  Person-to-person transmission of mpox can occur through direct contact with infectious skin or other lesions such as in the mouth or on genitals; this includes contact which is
  face-to-face (talking or breathing) […]
  respiratory droplets or short-range aerosols from prolonged close contact
  
  The link is supplemental to what is already mentioned in the article
  
  The article says:
  Infection via methods such as reusing towels and other skin-to-skin contact is possible but rare, he added.
  
  Yes. That agrees with what I said in my original comment.
  
  The WHO said COVID wasn’t airborne and only spread through contact or cough droplets until 2023 when they changed their mind even though research had put significant doubts in this by 2021.
  They WHO isn’t usually the most speedy at getting the details right. I’d look for literature reviews.
- Majority of STIs are not spread by sex workers. Majority of sex workers do not have STIs. The type of sex worker you're referring to (high risk STI group) is usually one of several categories:
  trafficked minor
  trafficked adult
  meth user (meth use in particular is associated with unsafe sex orgies)
  injectable drug use
  That's because these groups come into contact with people who will regularly sexually assault others including via biological warfare like STIs, and due to their status they are unable to say no to the abuse or to use protection like condoms and PreP. Think of the type of guy who pays for a trafficked minor like a 13 year old. Would you trust them if they said their STI status was clean? How does a kid even get access to condoms or money to buy an STI test, or hiw do they drive and get themselves a vaccine? How does an adult human who is essentially a slave do that? These groups are not the same as adult consensual sex workers and if we would decriminalize sex work, it would be easier to find people who are actually a public health risk due to trafficking.
  Majority of STIs are in people 25 yrs of age and younger. Then there's another spike for much older people. Both groups are often victims of sexual assault, in fact are the highest demographics for both. Disabled people who are in the highest category for sexual assault likewise have the highest STI numbers. All of these groups are more likely to live in group homes.
  Majority of STIs are in people in college or high school. In consensual interactions, these people often have little money, don't understand the risks, don't get tested often, and aren't as likely to wear protection. They are also likely to have very close contact (nonsexual) with peers including living in dorms and participating in extracurriculars.
  I think it's weird to slut shame consensual, safe, responsible adult sex like a sex party or sex work. The vast majority of sex workers are not being trafficked and make relatively safe, sane decisions about their own health including using condoms, being vaccinated, and being tested regularly. I think that you should self examine who you're bullying and stigmatizing. No one deserves mpox.
  
  I'm not shut shaming anyone, litterally just stating the facts. I'm involved in the kink scene and have been to sex parties myself. I'm not saying these people "deserve" mpox like you're trying to claim I am, I'm litterslly just saying what the WHO guidance says.
  You're talking about the case for STIs in the US. Whereas mpox is primarily spreading in the Reupiblic of the Congo and adjacent countries. Where I imagine the situation with sex workers is different.
  And again, you need to stop with your accusatory attitude.
  
  The article is about mpox in the UK, a Western country, and most Lemmy users are in the US. Further, my comments about sexual abuse being the reason these groups spread stis is accurate worldwide.
  Where does the WHO guidance say "Unless you participate in orgies or are a sex worker, you won't get mpox"??
  I can have whatever attitude I please. Maybe stop spreading misinformation first.
  
  Yes, you are allowed to have whatever attitude you like. Just like I am allowed to completely disregard your opinion, because you're an asshole, that's just trying to feel superior and smug.
  So find someone else to harass and insult to make yourself feel big, because I'm going to block you.
  
  You're allowed to block me. Go ahead. Nothing stopping you. Doesn't bother me.
- so if you're not a sex worker or go to sex parties, you'll almost certainly be fine
  The WHO article you linked below says:
  It is recommended for people at high risk to get vaccinated to prevent infection with mpox, especially during an outbreak. This includes:
  health workers at risk of exposure
  men who have sex with men
  people with multiple sex partners
  sex workers.
  
  Yes?
  
  So more people are considered high risk than what you said.
  
  Not really?
  
  When did you last have sex with someone? Was that person a sex worker? Were you having a sex orgy? Why are those the only two options?
  You realize people cheat? Probably your hand would cheat if it could get away from you
  
  That's none of your business.
  Did I ever say they were tbe only two options?
  Yes I do realise people cheat?
  What does any of this have to do with anything?
  
  Well, YOU brought it up and regurgitated an old and inaccurate stigma, potentially risking lives. You tell me what sexual health has to do with inaccurate claims by people like you. Why are you commenting here if you know nothing and are just spreading harm?
  
  What stigma did I bring up? Like read my comment again, I didn't say a single negative thing.
  I'm litterally just quoting the available info given by the WHO. But given by your smugness I'm guessing you're actually a leading virologist in the Republic of Congo, right? Since you apparently know more than the WHO.
  
  You aren't quoting. That wasn't a quote. Stop gaslighting, stop engaging in sophistry, stop being emotionally abusive. It's not appreciated.
  You did indeed say negative stuff. Stop gaslighting, stop engaging in sophistry, stop being emotionally abusive. It's not appreciated.
  I didn't say I knew more than the WHO. Stop gaslighting, stop engaging in sophistry, stop being emotionally abusive. It's not appreciated.

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