Don’t Fall for the Third-Party Trick
Don’t Fall for the Third-Party Trick
A progressive who stays home on Election Day — or backs Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Cornel West, or No Labels — is voting for Donald Trump.
"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that 'some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest' of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called 'social fascists.'
After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."
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Considering how I'm in Texas where Trump is going to win regardless of who I vote for, I'm considering voting third party as a threat to the Democratic Party to fuck off with their far-right politics and if enough people do that in solid states then maybe it will help scare them into platforming less shitty candidates. In a swing state or barely blue or red state though where voting actually determines who wins then voting blue is probably the better option since the contest is between Harris and Trump and Trump is worse.
I bet Texas would at least turn swing state if everyone would go vote instead of giving up from the get go. Texas has a voter turnout of about 50% at presidential elections.
Texas ain't as red as you think.
Well considering how Dallas is one of the "bluest" parts of the state (aside from Austin) and yet its full of conservatives who are about to successfully defund our barely functional public transit system, I doubt it.
The problem is turnout. If Texans, especially young Texans, just voted, you'd see a big swing. Someone else responding in this thread under my initial comment has left a massive post with statistics about it.
Prove it.
If you're actually serious, literally just google voter turnout numbers in texas. Also look at how close some races were and compare that to the nonvoting registered voter population. I've seen several analyses of that recently
Here is the TX government record of voter turnout: https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/70-92.shtml
Here is the TX government reporting of election results: https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/presidential.shtml
2020 Presidential: 66% turnout, 52% of the VAP (voting age population) voted. Trump won by 600k votes, 4.5M of VAP was not registered.
2018 Senatorial: 53% turnout, 42% of VAP turned out. Ted "I posted incest porn on twitter on 9/11" Cruz won by 215k, 4.1M of VAP was not registered.
2018 Gubernatorial: 53% turnout, 42% of VAP turned out. Abbott won by 1.1M, 4.1M of VAP was not registered.
2016 Presidential: 59% turnout, 46% of VAP turned out. Trump won by 800k votes, 4.2M of VAP was not registered.
2012 Presidential: 59% turnout, 44% of VAP turned out. Romney won by 1.2M, 4.6M of VAP was not registered.
2008 Presidential: 60% turnout, 46% of VAP turned out. McCain won by 900k, 4.2M of VAP was not registered.
2004 Presidential: 56% turnout, 47% of VAP turned out. Bush won by 1.7M, 3M of VAP was not registered
2000 Presidential: total blowout for Bush, no two ways about it. He might have plunged us in to a 20 year long war and completely ravished innocent civilians in the middle east, but dont you just want to have a beer with the guy?
44% do not care, 27% intended to register but didn't, 11% are paranoid about voter roles, 9% say it isn't convenient (and Republicans sure have made it inconvenient), and 6% literally don't know how to register. From that same article and polling data, 35% of unregistered voters do not believe their vote will affect the political process, and 30% don't think it'll change election results. AND 40% of these care who wins political races, but don't vote.
These races are not close compared to the number of non-registered VAP. Young people are more left-leaning and show up to the polls at shockingly low rates. Minorities are typically more likely to vote Dem, but turn out at lower rates (partially due to disenfranchisement). If the non-voters voted, many races of the past 30+ years would've been close or Dem.
I hope it works out for you guys. I really do.
In the 2020 election Trump had 52.06% and Biden 46.48% in Texas. Obviously a lead for the Republicans, but it is moving getting closer and into swing state territory. This is with nobody spending a lot on Texas right now.