Do you refrain from participating to a community if it's hosted on Lemmy.ml ?
Do you refrain from participating to a community if it's hosted on Lemmy.ml ?
Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new !stardewvalley@lemm.ee taking over !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for additional context on those recent events if you are interested
Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I'm trying to keep !simracing@lemmy.ml active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities
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hell i went one step further and abandoned lemmy entirely for mbin
What’s the difference. Asking because I really don’t know. Lemmy, kbin, mbin, … what makes one better than the other, besides lemmy being (or having been?) actively developed by tankies?
Fwiw, I just abandoned Lemmy in favor of PieFed. It allows you to block whatever custom instance you want - in my case Lemmy.ml - it has "categories" of communities so you don't have to browse on All, it has a "reputation" feature that puts icons next to users doing patterns of extremely obvious trolling (like a <1-month old account with negative karma - note that such are not "banned", merely "labelled", so that you can make your own determination of what to do or not about such), and it has a fairly polished interface. It has its quirks, like searching for a user is different than searching for posts, but it keeps improving all the time and the developers are extremely receptive to feedback.
Unlike Lemmy, where 0.19 was supposed to allow user filtering of instances, but what was delivered in 0.19.3 fell far short of desires, then 0.19.5 rolled back what little protections had been previously offered. At this point I don't think you'll ever be able to block all users from lemmy.ml, so long as you remain where you are. Lemmy.world admins could do it, but it seems highly doubtful so long as certain communities such as !Firefox@lemmy.ml are located there.
Lemmy.cafe and Tesseract on dubvee.org have defederated from lemmy.ml though. And maybe some apps allows user-level defederation I dunno. So those seem to be your options - which aren't a lot but at least they exist!:-)
kbin has a few extra bells and whistles, like it can also do mastodon-style "microblogging" and custom themes per user. it's since ceased developement but mbin is a fork continuing it. other than that, the experience is the same
Are there any good mobile apps (iOS) that support all mbin features?
i'm not sure, i'm sorry. i just use the web interface as a PWA
No worries, just would’ve been neat, if you knew any.
Care to recommend a server to join?
I swear I'm already getting sick and tired of server-jumping over and over inside the fediverse...i totally get that, although being able to resub to all the same categories beats starting from scratch entirely somewhere else. my experience at fedia.io has been great so far
It depends what you are looking for. dbzer0.com I see a lot so remaining there is an option too. lemm.ee is similar in not wanting to defederate from anything, and damn if they don't mean it so like they don't even block lemmygrad.ml like virtually every other instance across the Fediverse.
Or go with a theme - StarTrek.website, programming.dev, etc. Or location.
If you want to block all 3 of the most toxic instances including lemmy.ml, there are only 2 that I have heard of that do so: dubvee.org and Lemmy.cafe. I may switch to one of those myself even.:-) The latter is pure Lemmy while the former runs an alternative UI (Tesseract) geared for streamlined multimedia, and may one day also run the Sublinks backend rather than Lemmy, though that doesn't seem ready.
Other thoughts include PieFed and Mbin, which you should at least check out before deciding. The latter combines the ability to look at Lemmy and also Mastodon with the same account / on the same instance. PieFed is more a Lemmy replacement, with a variety of other goodies like Pixelfed (a "Decentralized photo sharing social media" platform) that tie in to it, and they are about to release a short video hosting service as well.
Sorry if this is too much - at least it's so fucking cool to have it many awesome options to choose from! As excessive capitalism enshittifies everything for the sake of pure profiteering, the plethora of free and open source alternatives is a great sign for the future!:-)
You have perfectly summed up the biggest annoyance of the fediverse... Finding an instance/server. I'm ready to leave dbzero because I am tired of the ml/hex propaganda and they already stated the server won't defederate from them and blocking the instances doesn't block the users. Cool, not my server and I can't donate so I'll just show myself out when I find somewhere else.
I haven't checked dubvee or cafe, but most instances either block the ones with porn/hentai, weed or the ones with piracy content, so that really limits where I'd like to be.
I kind of want to check pieFed or Mbin, I don't know how much control I can get about blocking entire instances along their users and such, but it may be an answer.
Side note: I know about Mastodon and Pixelfed, already have an account... But I honestly don't care about any of them, their content is not for me.
Click "Blocked" at https://lemmy.cafe/instances - they barely block anything except those big 3. Unless they do it without it appearing there, which is possible, but highly doubtful. In any case it looks awesome from that perspective.
Also the welcoming messages at the top of the server are amazing - "Have you installed ublock origin?", "check out !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca", etc.
Mbin I think doesn't "block" even places such as Chapotraphouse - or at least Kbin did not - but it uses an entirely alternative voting scheme with "favorites" rather than upvotes and "reduces" rather than downvotes. That means that the popularity of something is only determined by the people on other Mbin/Kbin servers, with the upvote information still visible but not used by the sorting schemes. Also, the identity of people who use "reduces" against you are visible, so you can block them rather than have to suffer in silence, if they are super annoying about it e.g. reducing everything you've done without regards to its content. But yeah, I don't know about actually hiding messages from people from particular instances - that's what we are wanting here, and I imagine that if it is not doable now then it hopefully would be in the works?
I also don't think I want Mastodon... or maybe I do? But anyway I don't think we need it from the same account. Lemmy is topic-based rather than person-centered and that seems to make the most sense to me. Likewise Discord and Slack, but those are more unwieldy e.g. not indexed by search engines (such as DuckDuckGo, what else would I mean by that?:-P).
PieFed sounds the best in theory due to high integration with all those other services. Unless I end up not using or wanting those other services? I haven't so far... then again they're all so brand-new.
Sublinks sounds really exciting - you can even view a working demo - as it has been for the last half year with no updates that I've seen. Perhaps any day now... maybe...
And until my instance upgraded from 0.19.3 to 0.19.5 I enjoyed the Lemmy web UI. Now I dislike it - for a long reply (as I am wont to make myself:-D) up and downvote counts can be multiple (and variable!) screen rolls / pages away from the buttons on the bottom, and sometimes are on the right of the screen while other times on the left, having been wrapped around by a long name - go home UI, u r drunk! 😜
dubvee.org has iirc a single owner, which is usually not a sign of stability - but damn it is impressive! https://dubvee.org/about he did it all, then doesn't even accept donations for it and guides people to give to other projects instead - that's the opposite of capitalism, not just making fun of capitalism as people do on lemmy.ml constantly but rather living one's literal and actual life according to one's principles. Also I think he's stated somewhere that he'll switch to Sublinks rather than Lemmy as the backend when it's ready. So... it's a strong option as well, if a bit outside of the Lemmy ecosphere, and yet fully within the Fediverse and fully compatible with Lemmy, plus like PieFed additional multimedia enhancements of its own.
Well, he's on fedia.io, so I assume that he recommends that.
Keep in mind that that's an mbin instance. It has a different UI (much of which, though not all of which, I like), but last I looked, which was some time back, didn't have mobile client support other than a PWA. That may or may not be significant to you, depending upon your usage. It also has native support for Mastodon-style microblogging.
Your home instance is a lemmy instance, so it'll look and work somewhat-differently.
My main irritation with the mbin UI last I looked was the difficulty of bringing up the subscriptions list. On the other hand, it did a collection of other things that I liked that lemmy presently does not, like permitting resizing inline images.