Bernie Sanders to voters skipping presidential election over Israel: ‘Trump is even worse’
Bernie Sanders to voters skipping presidential election over Israel: ‘Trump is even worse’
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) shares his message to voters in the Uncommitted Movement who are considering not voting in the presidential race over the Biden administration's handling of Israel.
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perhaps the most illogical thing
Here's how logic works:
If killing is wrong, then don't kill.
Can America please stop enabling the killing. Thanks.
Less killing is better than more killing.
Attempted ceasefire is better than undermining said ceasefire.
More amicability better than less amicability.
Less Ukrainians die vs more Ukrainians die.
Comparative logic.
Less killing is better than more killing.
The voice of pragmatism: "We must continue to supply arms to a country which kills innocent people because, otherwise, our own country will allow for the killing of more innocent people."
Me: "So, you're saying that killing innocent people is wrong?"
The voice of pragmatism: "Yes."
Me: "And you don't want to increase?"
The voice of pragmatism: "No. That would be bad."
Me: "But, to be practical and pragmatic, we must continue to accept this bad thing will be done, albeit in a smaller amount... even though you just said it is wrong, and you don't want more of it?"
The voice of pragmatism: "That is the case."
There is a pause.
Me: "And will the killing of innocents ever end?"
The voice of pragmatism: "Definitely! In practical terms, no more people of these countries can be killed once they are all dead!"
I'm against the killing of innocents. If being against the killing of innocents means more innocent people will be killed, then you have constructed a situation where you have to kill innocents in order to reduce the killing of innocents. That makes no sense, and I'm out. Human society is clearly not healthy to be involved in. You can quibble amongst yourselves on how to best harm others to reduce harm without me.
I will leave you to your world where you must kill, because killing is bad, and if you don't kill things will be worse, so you must kill, because killing is bad.
You seem to be under the impression that your not voting changes the binary outcome.
This pyrrhic victory neglects to recognize that either Trump or Harris will be elected. And there is no circumstance that Trump is better than Harris. Not on women's rights. Not on climate change. Not on Ukraine. And not on Gaza.
Whether you like it or not, it's Harris or Trump. Sticking your head in the sand doesn't change this fact.
So both the moral and pragmatic solution is to choose the lesser evil that gives the highest odds to improve all these groups. Which is Harris. Factually.
You seem to be under the impression that your not voting changes the binary outcome.
Me voting wouldn't change the outcome either, considering I can't.
So both the moral and pragmatic solution is to choose the lesser evil
Is killing wrong?
Yes, killing wrong.
Killing more people with less chance to kill fewer people more wrong.
Again, dichotomous choice. Easiest choice to make, really.
If killing is wrong, then voting to kill some rather than more is still wrong.
I request better options.
Correction: it is less wrong.
Standing by and letting someone kill more when your action could've resulted in less makes you as culpable in the killing as Biden and Harris themselves.
We're standing by to let killing happen right now. I'm the one saying that's unacceptable.
You can't vote so you're irrelevant but still, no, the only agency I'm privileged to have is my vote. Doing nothing means more die. Voting Harris means less die. Simple.