How tankies and MAGAts view the Ukraine war
How tankies and MAGAts view the Ukraine war
I hate how “anti-war” has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isn’t in NATO).
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By stating it was provoked, you're defending Putin. Unleashing rape and murder on a civilian population is not something you "provoke". Ukraine has a sovereign right to wish to join NATO or the EU, as any sovereign nation does. Putin does not get a vote in that.
Remember the many times Russia tried to join NATO? Probably not.
Yes, and I remember Russia demanding unreasonable terms as a condition for entering. They sabotaged that themselves. Russia demanded all kinds of foreign policy from NATO and demanded a special status within the alliance. They also did not want to follow the normal procedure for joining, like the other members did.
This is all from your own source by the way. Did you even read it or are you just throwing links around hoping people don't read them?
Then, surely you are aware that American “Shock Therapy” created the conditions that led to the current situation.
Which is also irrelevant, because it doesn't in any way excuse Putins decision to invade Ukraine, raping and killing innocent civilians as a result.
Regardless, Russia is and always was a sovereign nation. The US can advise whatever they like, Russian leadership ultimately decided what actually got implemented. Not to mention the pretty terrible state the Soviet economy was in already.
I hate to be the one to tell you this, and I mean no offense, but you just don’t understand; we’re not as moral as we think. 🤔
Lmao as if I don't know? Philosophy experiments are fun and all but humans just suck at conceptualizing beyond what we can see. Random kids across the ocean people have a hard time empathising with unprompted.
Regardless, this is another completely irrelevant article you've shared. Perhaps one could argue the west is standing by as a Ukrainian child is drowning. But that's still infinitely more moral and ethical than taking the child from his mother, dragging it into a pond, raping it there, then shooting it, all in front of their mother, only to then call it "provoked" and "self-defense", all because mommy decided to open a Tinder account and matched with a couple western guys. Because that's all justified of course, only a couple decades ago were you their abusive boyfriend so clearly it's justified, right?
Such a paragon of morality, that Putin fella.
Purely defensive.
Random blogger tweets unsourced claims. More at eleven. Also completely unrelated.
Still not seeing how any of this suggests there's anything remotely close to a justification of Putins invasion of Ukraine.
I fail to see how any of this relates to someone being called a Nazi apologist. You’ve created a straw man that I support Putin’s invasion (even though I stated that I am opposed). Adults with higher level critical thinking understand that one can be opposed to Putin and Russian imperialism, while also being opposed to NATO and western imperialism. Even with my limited IQ of 142, I can avoid the binary fallacy that if Dugin inspired Russian imperialists are the bad guys, then, by default, Ukraine and their western imperialist NATO supporters must be the good guys.
You started with the claim that Putin was somehow "provoked" into committing mass rape and murder on an innocent civilian population. That's an imperialist/fascist talking point, literally used by the Nazis back when Hitler invaded Poland.
At no point have I claimed you support the invasion (that's a strawman you just made up), only that you made excuses for it. Hence why you were called a Nazi apologist.
Even with my limited IQ of 142
Ah, that explains it. You must have at least 160 IQ in order to understand that making excuses for Putins invasion is morally indefensible.
Also, pretending both-sidesism is somehow enlightened is hilarious. In this conflict, it's pretty fucking clear who is on the moral highground, ulterior motives be damned. Putin sent in a military that rapes and murders innocent civilians, NATO has provided weapons to the Ukrainian military to prevent that. Even if you believe NATO has a secret master plan to topple Putin or whatever, defending an innocent civilian population is a good thing regardless of any geopolitical reasoning involved.