Move the Overton Window
Move the Overton Window
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choosing to alienate the Democratic base by appealing to those they oppose.
Uniting everyone who didn't like Trump was a good idea.
distant past like that will work on our goldfish-brains.
That's exactly why Trump's economic failure needed to be the primary message. Everyone forgot.
You must not have lived through that era if you don't recall all the Democrat warmongers after 2001 or capitalists like Clinton boosting the prison population in the 90's.
???? That exactly proves my point. The OP claimed today's Democrats are farther right than the Republicans from 25+ years ago. You just gave more examples of how past Democrats were not the far leftists that current American kids imagine.
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Uniting everyone who didn't like Trump was a good idea.
And instead of doing that, the Democrats once again divided their own base to chase the mythical moderate republican.
The people they were appealing to were not just Republicans, they were still republicans after Trump's first term. If they had any issues with Trump's "leadership", they had plenty of time to come to terms with them and leave the party of their own accord.
That the Democrats thought appeals to this demographic would improve their position reveals that they fundamentally do not understand the electorate they hope to woo.
That's exactly why Trump's economic failure needed to be the primary message. Everyone forgot.
Yeah, everyone was distracted with how shitty the economic situation was under Biden. Harris had an opportunity to break from that and squandered it by sticking to Biden's "no really, the economy is good" gaslighting message. The Dems could have made a bunch of false promises like the Republicans and maybe gotten a stalemate on this issue at the ballot box, but that would be a bit of a reach.
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Those are all good points but they still don't have anything to do with my original rebuttal of the claim that Democrats are now further right than Republicans from 25 years ago.
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I don't recall rebutting that point. It's kind of a central feature of my argument.
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You wrote this:
The left is waiting for an actual left candidate and the Democrats keep running moderate right-wingers who wouldn't have been out of place on the Republican ticket 25 years ago.
25 years ago Republicans wanted to overturn Roe V Wade. 25 years ago Republicans wanted to stop don't ask don't tell and outright ban gays from the military. 25 years ago no Republicans supported gay marriage. 25 years ago Republicans complained about DEI. 25 years ago Republicans were against legalized Marijuana. 25 years ago Republicans were against any healthcare reform. 25 years ago Republicans talked about privatizing Social Security.
Harris was objectively not equivalent to a Republican from 25 years ago. The bullshit that Democrats got worse is what got Trump elected.
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25 years ago Republicans wanted to overturn Roe V Wade.
Refusing to enshrine it into law when Democrats had the chance is the same thing as overturning it.
25 years ago Republicans wanted to stop don't ask don't tell and outright ban gays from the military.
Today, Democrats are sitting on their asses and letting Trump ban whoever he wants from the militaty
25 years ago no Republicans supported gay marriage.
Today, Democrats are probably going to run Gavin Newsome for the next presidential campaign
25 years ago Republicans complained about DEI.
Today, Democrats are holding their tongues as Republicans villainize diversity wholesale.
25 years ago Republicans were against legalized Marijuana.
Today, a Democrat on my own city's council vetoed a popular ballot measure to allow a recreational dispensary.
25 years ago Republicans were against any healthcare reform.
Today, Democrats have given up on healthcare reform after passing Romneycare nearly two decades ago.
25 years ago Republicans talked about privatizing Social Security.
Today, Democrats are sitting by as Republicans dismantle it.
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Refusing to enshrine it into law when Democrats had the chance is the same thing as overturning it.
Wanting to keep Roe V Wade isn't wanting to overturn it.
Today, Democrats are sitting on their asses and letting Trump ban whoever he wants from the militaty
Americans voted to give all three branches of the government to Republicans. Democrats have no power.
Harris is not equivalent to Republicans from 25 years ago on this issue.
Today, Democrats are probably going to run Gavin Newsome for the next presidential campaign
Harris supported gay marriage. That wasn't a Republican position 25 years ago.
Today, a Democrat on my own city's council vetoed
Was that Democrat Kamala Harris?
Today, Democrats have given up on healthcare reform
Who has the majority of the house, senate and Supreme Court? Who is president?
Again Harris is not equivalent to a Republican from 25 years ago.
Democrats are sitting by as Republicans dismantle it.
Which happened because of the bullshit claims that Democrats were like Republicans. Both sides bad so don't vote.
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