[DISCUSSION] Foundation S02E08 - The Last Empress (Spoilers)
[DISCUSSION] Foundation S02E08 - The Last Empress (Spoilers)
Summary: Enjoiner Rue confides in Dusk about her distrust of Demerzel. Hober Mallow pulls a daring move. Day sets course for Terminus and the Foundation.
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Air Date: September 1, 2023
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This has been my favorite episode of the entire show.
The good: learning about the secrets between Cleon I and Demerzel continues to move in unexpected directions.
The bad: Hober Mallow acts as a Deus Ex Machina at the most convenient of times.
The ugly: keeping track of the mentalics story is a bit much for my normal brain. It's been a long, slow burn with conflicting information given to the viewer at several points.
Agree, great episode. While I'm sure the show would do interesting things with it, I kind of hope the direction with the mentallics isn't for this Tellem to try to move conscious into Gale, but Gale be dominant mind and just making Gale super powerful. Just wouldn't feel earned.
I think Salvor will save the day somehow
I bet Salvor will burst in with those brain wave suppressors turned on to eleven. Then everyone will get a massive headache and drop to the floor.
Right during the transfer so she falls into the chasm.
The moment they talked about those disruptors I thought "what a convenient checkhovs gun!"
You called it
And by Salvor Hardin you mean VAR Hari Seldon
I realised the anagram a few days ago. I tried to find information about this on the internet but couldn't find any. I can't remember if it's mentioned in the books but it can't be a coincidence.
Also, yes. Salvor definitely will save the day.
did i miss something ? Salvor Hardin does not have an e in it so how can it be an anagram to hari sEldon ?
True, but my guess is that Asimov removed a silent e in Salvor(e) Hardin(e) to make the anagram less obvious.
This is literally the first time Gaal has been remotely useful,
interestingwatchable, or just... remotely functional, the rest of the time she's either crying or just being contrary just because.I was very upset with her in the previous episode when she was demanding trust from Salvor with the obvious problem being she is not trusting Salvor or her hunch and about the boats history being erased.
Same, this was so damn much fun!
It's like they decided to start writing plot finally!
I have this fear that the leader of the mentalics is in fact the mule in her whatevereth iteration.
Loved the end of the episode when Dawn and Dusk discover that Demerzel is the Empire. It was something I was talked with my wife since season 1. I guess that for the end of season 2, Demezer is going to get rid of all the Cloud Dominion staff, Dawn and Dusk and retrieve new ones with forged memories. Funny how this season all three brothers were in love of someone different.
Agree, best episode so far!