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You can encrypt your emails on Gmail too.
I have thought about switching for many years, but I haven't pulled the trigger. Sounds like a lot of work
It also seems like K9 mail isn't supported with proton and thunderbird support is a little more annoying to set-up.
And you know, free is nice.
5 euro a month is little more than I would want.
You can encrypt your emails on Gmail too.
You can't encrypt your inbox, Google will always be able to read everything.
Sounds like a lot of work
I switched from Gmail to Proton, trust me, it's not that much work. Especially with Easy Switch.
It also seems like K9 mail isn’t supported
Yeah, but the (open source btw) Proton Mail Android app is totally fine.
And you know, free is nice.
Proton Mail also has a generous free plan
I have a free account that I made years ago, but I haven't used it for anything.
Btw, most emails are not end to end encrypted on proton. Only emails from/to other proton users or emails sent/received using their "password-protected emails" feature and of course any emails sent/received from anyone that's using openPGP.
Also the free tier only includes 500 MB of storage which is extremely little, it also doesn't include IMAP support which is a deal breaker, it also injects ads into your sent emails which is stupid.
I will try it for a short time and see.
For me to keep using it (and pay, because the free tier is pretty bad) it really needs to be better and not just in the privacy sense. I also need more money.
Btw, most emails are not end to end encrypted on proton. Only emails from/to other proton users or emails sent/received using their “password-protected emails” feature and of course any emails sent/received from anyone that’s using openPGP.
I know that, but I'm talking about the emails that are stored in your inbox, not incoming/outgoing messages.
Also the free tier only includes 500 MB of storage which is extremely little
I've been using Proton Mail since 2020 and so far I only used ~100MB.
it also doesn’t include IMAP support
Because it's impossible to offer IMAP when all the messages are encrypted. They would have to decrypt your messages on their servers in order to allow you to connect via IMAP. Proton Mail offers a workaround though, you can download their Proton Mail Bridge application on your computer, which will locally decrypt the messages and create a local IMAP server that you can connect to with your Email client of choice. That way, the unencrypted messages never leave your computer.
it also injects ads into your sent emails which is stupid
Uh, no. Where does Proton Mail inject ads? That's only something that Google would do. If you mean the signature, Apple has been doing the same thing for over a decade. It's not really ads though, it's just a short string of text saying 'Sent from Proton Mail'. It's added before the message is sent though, so you can just delete it. Apple does the same thing, if you send an email from an iPhone it will say 'Sent from my iPhone' in the Email signature.
I've been using Proton Mail since 2020 and so far I only used ~100MB. How? My account from 2019 with just two pages of emails (all of which are newsletters and ads from Proton) is using 64 MB.
All my emails in Gmail are 2,7 GB and of course I would want to import them, what's the point otherwise.
Because it's impossible to offer IMAP when all the messages are encrypted. They would have to decrypt your messages on their servers in order to allow you to connect via IMAP. Proton Mail offers a workaround though, you can download their Proton Mail Bridge application on your computer, which will locally decrypt the messages and create a local IMAP server that you can connect to with your Email client of choice. That way, the unencrypted messages never leave your computer.
Yes, I know. I thought I said that earlier.
The workaround isn't possible to use with a free account.
Uh, no. Where does Proton Mail inject ads? That's only something that Google would do. If you mean the signature, Apple has been doing the same thing for over a decade. It's not really ads though, it's just a short string of text saying 'Sent from Proton Mail'. It's added before the message is sent though, so you can just delete it. Apple does the same thing, if you send an email from an iPhone it will say 'Sent from my iPhone' in the Email signature.
Yes, that is what I mean. I don't know about Apple since I don't use anything from Apple, but you can't turn off the footer with a free proton account.
It's clearly an ad for Proton. I have nothing against it except that it's impossible to turn off. Also it's stupid to have those for the web app, as they are meant for the receiver to know that you're on a mobile and maybe can't respond.
Well, all of those issues would be solved by Proton Mail Plus for 3,50€/month ($4). For Gmail, you pay with your data.
Yes, I know. I just don't know if it's worth 4,99 €/month
Hydroxide is another option. It's basically the Proton Mail bridge, but it doesn't require the paid plan.
@netchami yeah, but isn't it broken rn?
Oh, I didn't know that. Last time I used hydroxide in 2021, now I just the the Proton Mail Bridge.
@netchami looks like hydroxide works for now, but you can view your email offline with electronmail as well
Ok, thanks. I've known about ElectronMail, but I never actually tried it. It also seems to support Tutanota?
@netchami I don't think it does. I don't see any options to add a tutanota account and tutanota has their own application anyway