[META] Never change, lemmy.ml
[META] Never change, lemmy.ml
For context: The thread was about why people hate Hexbear and Lemmygrad instances
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structures like worker councils, Authoritarianism isn’t required in the slightest.
Those worker councils, to operate with any efficiency, will need a national council. To have any success whatsoever, this national council needs the authority to dictate what is made, where it is made, how much is made when, and where goods are to be shipped.
That is authoritarianism.
Says who, exactly? The person who has continued to prove themselves wrong and uneducated on the subject matter this entire thread?
Secondly, by your very same logical chain, Capitalism is more authoritarian, as only the state and the Bourgeoisie call the shots, rather than democratic control. Even if we accept every single one of your incorrect statements in the previous paragraph as correct, there is exactly 0 reason any of those councils must be less democratically accountable than Capitalism and Liberal Democracy.
By your very own logical chain, we should ban all Capitalist instances because Capitalism is less democratic than Communism or Socialism.
Secondly, by your very same logical chain, Capitalism is more authoritarian, as only the state and the Bourgeoisie call the shots, rather than democratic control.
This sentence doesn't make sense. Capitalism is an economic system. One can be capitalist and authoritarian, as is the case with fascism, or one can be totally and completely laissez-faire as a state policy in some sort of Objectivist hellstate. Liberal Democracy is what keeps those things from happening, as a competing system of government.
No, you're the one that is making precisely no sense.
For Socialism/Communism, you are positing that there must be an Authoritarian group deciding everything, and pretend that even if we accept your false, baseless claim that a group must decide everything, then you're still making the even more baseless claim that this group cannot be democratically controlled via liberal or other such democracy.
For Capitalism, you are pretending that the hierarchy and authoritarian structures inherent to that system don't actually matter. It doesn't matter in your eyes that production be authoritarian a la Capitalism or democratic a la Socialism/Communism, as the form of government takes priority over the economy.
None or your claims have any merit. You're full of it.
I mean it 100% tracks that a fan of communism would ignore reality and substitute their own
Run away when proven wrong, sounds accurate for someone like you.
Lol I love when you guys do this weird shit
Let me get this straight: I point out very clearly why none of what you said makes any sense, and you refuse to acknowledge any of it and run, then say I'm the one doing the weird shit?
Why do you talk so much, if everything you say is wrong? Do you have a fetish?
I have a normal amount of fetishes, yeah. That has nothing to do with this conversation tho.
I like girls in cow print bikinis. No idea why.
Did you ever once have an intention of answering honestly, or do you make it a point to not acknowledge when you're clearly wrong?
I always admit when I'm wrong. I rarely discuss things Im not correct about.
Issues much?