Malaysia’s government announced Wednesday that it was imposing a ban on all Israeli owned and flagged ships, as well as any vessels headed to Israel, from docking at its ports.
Seems like most non-European nations didn't care about Jews until they stole Israel.
That would make them anti-Zionist, not anti-Semetic.
I know it's important for you people to conflate the two, though. Thankfully this generation isn't quite as stupid as the last one when it comes to your propaganda.
Guess what, when you refuse Jews their right to their ancestral land that they've never left, while not doing so with any other people, yup, that makes you an anti-semite.
Since you can't seem to stay off my dick, I've decided to reply. You are an antisemite. Not in the way that everyone calls everyone that. You're out here spending your days on the Internet espousing all flavors of this shit. So I'm not going to engage in particulars here for you to ignore and try to pick apart. You contribute to the dialogue in bad faith. You are shit on my boot. Nothing. Undermensch. Got what you want? Angry Nazi Jew hates goy? You should go to therapy to deal with whatever you hate about yourself or your upbringing, or just fucking leave. Go in the woods and don't come back.
Btw "You people" .. words of a gentleman and scholar.
"Your propaganda".. mine? Whose?
I really don't like you. I bet your friends and family don't like you either. I bet you don't like you. Closet gay? Attracted to Jewish women? White guilt? Which you got buried down there. Fix yourself before you hurt someone else.
So same as the other comments... You have nothing of value to offer and don't respond to subject matter. Are you a Russian troll farm employee? A Musk loving incel? Fake leftist? Which flavor of feces?
Also, I asked "here are angry generic words.. is this what you expect?"
That means your comment here is just repeating back my /s
Maybe you're actually just a fucking idiot. I suppose I give ignorance too much credit for malice
Okay, I'll accept your concession. I'll feel good sleeping tonight feeling like I "won" here. I don't even do that shit on the Internet. I have a pretty full and fulfilling life. This is so unimportant to me
Yet somehow, you've provided me with such a sense of satisfaction! Thank you! I was really bored before but I'm smiling right now. Because you've helped me remember how people like you function and how little credence to give you. Except when your kind shoots up schools and churches and synagogues and shit... But other than that you're feckless! Merry Christmas!
What are you talking about? Anti-Semitism is rife in lots of the middle east. The protocols of the elders of Zion are still circulated as fact. And Malaysia isn't in the middle east?
So either you're a Middle Eastern or Muslim person that loves his brother in Abraham sharing personal experience, who I love for your naivete and wish everyone had that sentiment everywhere about everyone and there was world peace... Or you're completely detached from the history which is fine, but you shouldn't post disinformation on the Internet bc others will believe you and parrot it to others, as is happening here
Thanks for being honest and asking in good faith. So pretty much the whole history has been defined by genocides and being used as fodder for scapegoating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_question .. this is a pretty controversial vein of the dialogue for you to get started. You don't have to feel one way or another but it's an example of the modern West's dynamics
Oh I know that. I was talking specifically about whether antisemitism affected foreign policy. Like, didn't Western countries just persecute Jews inside their borders while not really caring about ones outside? That's why I said "outside their borders".
Okay gotcha. I think the missing piece here is the connection between domestic and foreign policy. Forget Jews, Holocaust, Israel, genocide, any of it, and go more basic..
Domestic policy issues like immigration in a functioning country on an average normal day, are by their nature, foreign policy. If you own a store and lock the door and say we're closed, you're informing the outside world of this. If I needed a loaf of bread from you, now I have to do something else.. it doesn't matter if I find a different store, switch recipes, order in.. you've affected me. Like how in science, merely observing, is impacting any experiment, just bc you're interacting with it through the very observation itself.
So now you're a Eurasian country expelling your Jews as one does every few centuries. If I accept those Jews, that's a diplomatic message to the global community that I disagree with your policy. Think about Poland accepting Ukrainians or the US sending bombs. That's a message on our stance on Russian genocide.
So the fact that we treat Israel differently than we treat Russia, which we treat differently than Italy, which we treat differently than Peru, is all antisemitism?
Btw: why would you treat Russia different to Italy? If Italy commits human rights violation to the same degree as Russia and Israel do, I would expect you to condemn Italy and Peru the same way.
Its plain and simple antisemitic in this instance. They didn't do this against Russia – who treats the Ukrainians similarly, but without even the slightest reason. They only do it against Israel.
If you use this tool against all human rights violators, I wouldn't complain. But if you only use it against Jews/Israel? Seems to be personally motivated and not for the cause.
If Israel was treated equivalently to Russia they would've been under heavy sanctions from pretty much everybody by now, given that just in the first 2 weeks of bombing they murdered several Buchas worth (plus a couple of Mariupols) of civilians.
If there is one thing this situation made clear to most of the whole World when put side by side with the Russian invasion and the reaction to it, is the profound hypocrisy and even racist-genocide endorsing spirit of several self-proclaimed freedom-loving nations, especially the US, Germany and the UK.
The difference between Russia and Israel is, that Russia decided to attack Ukraine and Israel was attacked and is defending itself against Hamas. Nevertheless, even Germany and France are urging to stop the bombing of civilians.
Only a racists who thinks "they're all the same" would justify killing Palestinians on the actions of Hamas.
Israel is an Occupying Power facing an Insurgence, who have chosen to conduct their anti-Insurgence action using methods with massive rates of collateral deaths and even have operating procedures in place with zero consideration for civilian lives, as clearly demonstrated when they just shot and killed 3 Israelis who were Hamas hostages and escaped and were holding a white flag.
That pro-genocide propaganda technique of yours of "forgetting" all about everything that happenned longer than 3 months ago and profoundly racist trope of trying to justify tens of thousands of Palestinian deaths - over 40% of which children - on 700 Israeli deaths at the hands of Hamas, has long run its course and only morons fall for that crap.
As for Germany, after thousands of Palestinian children had been killed, well past the point when Israeli actions were still justifiable, Scholz was still very explicitly stating Germany's "unwavering support of Israel". Fascism might have been kicked out of Germany but it's still strong in German hearts: they might have added the Jewish people to their lists of "those like us" but their "never again" turns out to not be about stopping racist ultranationalist fascists from murdering with impunity "those who are not like us", only about Germany not treating the Jewish People as "one of us". That bullshit less-than-finger-wagging talk you mention means nothing for a nation that still proclaims its unavering support for a Fascist country committing genocide well beyond the point were there might still have been doubts.
We in Europe better be wary of Germany's remilitarization now that it is crystal clear that they still have no problem with genocidal racist and ultranationalist Fascism, as long as the etnicity of the Fascists is the right one.
Your rant is completely factless. Germany has called for a ceasefire numerous times. At the same time its urging to help civilians and open borders for humanitarian aid. Its calling for a two-state solution, where Palestinians have their own state.
The statement of 'unwavering support of Israel' regards to the existence or Israel, not everything Israel does. Because a lot of states and organizations want Israel to stop existing - for example Hamas.
There is nothing more natural that the leader of a nation which abhors Nazism to loudly restate his unwavering support for a nation governed by an ultra-nationalist, racist, far-right cohalition, the very same day the UN announced they had already killed 4000 children in the ghetto they created on occupied land, populated by a different etnicity, who the leaders of said nation describe as "human animals"!!!
I mean, which leader that trully embodied a humanist and anti-fascist understanding of "Never again" would have as prime concern anything else but the right to exist of a state with such an elected government which according to the UN was killing thousands of children of an etnicity they deem "human animals" in a ghetto of their own creation in such a callous way???!
It's only natural Sholz would aboved all worry about Israel's right to exist in such a situation: there trully was nothing else more important for a humanist anti-Fascist to want to loudly proclaim than that at the time!!!
Israel funded Hamas. They went after Gaza, not Hamas. Gaza has been unbelievably unyielding during this nearly century long struggle; unlike the occupied West Bank.
At some point you have to reliaze your bullcrap has been sniffed out.
I just call it out. Its antisemitism plain and simple.
And the only reason why Russia hasn't succeeded is the far superior air defense of Ukraine compared to Hamas (who itself doesnt care about Palestinians and therefore has almost no air defense at all) and the more densely populated area.
Do you understand what having a neighbour wishing for nothing else but your death and launching rockets at you every single day is? Do you condemn this as harshly as you pity the poor Gazans? Didn't think so.
I think the people who downvoted you don't actually understand that this is really Malaysia being antisemitic. This is a country (my country, mind you) that has a term for the Jewish Agenda (Agenda Yahudi), and thought that the vaccines were haram because the Jews were purposely putting pork serum into it.
I'm against Israel as well, but you'd think people would have some nuance when discussing topics like these.