Draft-dodging plagues Ukraine as Kyiv faces acute soldier shortage
Draft-dodging plagues Ukraine as Kyiv faces acute soldier shortage
An early burst of patriotic fervor saw draft centers swamped with volunteers, but that has waned with Vladimir Putin’s war in its third year.
We're kept being told that Ukrainians want to fight, but the reality is that the Ukrainian regime is forcing people to fight against their will. This is what the west is supporting in Ukraine.
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Slava Ukraini
The term "Slava Ukraini" originated from a far right theorist back in the 1910s and was frequently used by far right nationalist groups and Nazi organizations. In particular, "The greeting "Glory to Ukraine!(Slava Ukraini) Glory to the heroes!" became an official slogan of Stepan Bandera's Nazi-allied OUN-B in April 1941. During World War II, Ukrainian nationalists often used it in addition to a roman salute."
The comment above is promoting fascism.
What is the context of the phrase now? Context is everything and you can't just point at the history books and twist the meaning of what someone said.
Languages change and morph over time. They always have.
What is the context of the phrase "Heil Hitler" now? Context is everything and you can't just point at the history books and twist the meaning of what someone said.
Languages change and morph over time. They always have.
The context is that this phrase is commonly used by neonazis and the far right in Ukraine today. Stop trying to whitewash fascists, it's not a good look.
Can I also not make the ok symbol because some dumbfucks are using it for other purposes?
You're being factually disingenuous so it's kinda funny to throw that up as if you have merit in the argument.
But hey, tankies gonna tankie.
I'm not being factually ingeniousness at all, but if you feel the need to lie to whitewash nazis then what else is there to say about you.
If someone asks, "Who drinks water", and you say "Nazis drink water" implying that only Nazis drink water when obviously it's not an exclusive argument, that's being factually disingenuous.
So yes, you're being disingenuous with how "Glory to Ukraine" is used in the majority of cases these days.
If you think that means I'm a Nazi apologist then you're either a troll or mentally deficient at observing basic logic and nuance.
What interesting point you're making there. Let's just look at some of the people using "Slava Ukraini"
- https://khpg.org/en/1528928862
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
- https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2021-05-04/ty-article/.premium/ukrainian-official-changes-tune-on-unacceptable-march-honoring-ss-unit/0000017f-e0e2-d7b2-a77f-e3e7ee990000 (https://archive.ph/ckwv4)
- https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725c2d
- https://gordonhahn.com/2015/05/02/ukraines-neo-fascist-right-sector-claims-responsibility-again-for-2-may-2014-terrorist-pogrom/
- http://www.errc.org/news/anti-roma-pogroms-in-ukraine-on-c14-and-tolerating-terror
If these are the people you're carrying water for, then yeah you are a nazi apologist. I guess maybe if you're mentally deficient yourself then you might not have realized what the term means and who uses it, but I suspect you know precisely what you're doing here.
Why do you keep moving the goalposts? We are talking about the phrase Glory to Ukraine and who currently uses it. You linked me a bunch of articles on Nazis and shit bags in Ukraine that's says NOTHING about who uses the phrase.
Are you positing that because shitty people exist in Ukraine, everyone in Ukraine is shitty? Like what are you even trying to say at this point? Cause you sure as shit sound like a Russian propagandist trying to muddy the waters.
Your link-diarrhea only further convinces me you're a troll because you assume no one's going to read through your obfuscating tactics.
So congrats on trolling me into wasting a few minutes of my time, but you can fuck off now... I'm done with you and your disingenuous bullshit.
No, you're using an out of date historical anecdote to generalize all usage of Ukraine's national slogan as pro Nazi. Way to drink the Russian Koolaid! The list of people that use the slogan that aren't Nazis is far larger and includes the Ukrainian President of ... Jewish descent. It's sad that the Mods fell for this.
I love how you trolls still use BuT ZeleNskY iS JeWiSh nonsense. If you don't understand why that argument is idiotic, what else is there to say to you.
Every country has a far right nationalistic group. That by no means is justification for invading a sovereign national and slaughtering its people.
They didn't say it did
OP has a long history of repeating many of the Russian talking points about how Nazis are in Ukraine. Even if he doesn't explicitly say that the invasion was justified, everything he posts is supporting it. (It depends if he is on a pro-Russian kick or a pro-China kick. He flip-flops a bit, but the methods are the same: Bait others, then get into pointless arguments ad-nauseam until the conversation devolves into name calling.)
He even has pages of references available at all times. It doesn't matter what those references are as it's a pain in the ass to dig into all that shit, and it's a distraction more than anything else.
Of course you’re not going to dig into them, you already know you’re right.
Anglosphere corporate media reported on Ukraine’s Nazi problem many times for nearly a decade, and then suddenly stopped in 2022.
- The Guardian, 2014: Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- Atlantic Council, 2018: Ukraine’s Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence (And No, RT Didn’t Write This Headline)
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
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Now they only complain that embarrassing Nazi insignia keep appearing in their photos & footage of Ukrainian troops for some reason.NYT last year: Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History
Ah yes, Russian talking points as reported by mainstream western media. Love how you trolls just want to keep pretending there are no fascists in Ukraine. It's great that you openly admit that you don't care what the facts are. Says all we need to know about you.
You assume quite a few things, don't you?
I don't consider this trolling. We are already a couple of steps into the process I outlined above, so consider it proving a point.
Also, I don't give a fuck what you like or dislike or what dictator you choose to worship. Whatever. You do you.
The problem is that you are on an agenda to spread hate, misinformation and shift bias. Educating people is one thing, flooding social media with the intent to hurt is quite another. To me, you are not solving any problems, you arw attempting to create them.
Where the fuck are you from, anyway? What perfect utopia do you live in?
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Seriously. Where do you live? The quantity of shit you pump out about every other place in the world leads me to believe that you live in an awesome place.
Seems like I spend a lot of time living in your head rent free. 😂
By using that phrase, you are obviously a fascist. There hasn't been much time for that to change its meaning by those who tend to use it.
Still, I don't need (or want) your street address. Since we are talking about context, it would be really interesting to hear about your frame of reference. A country is fine. Wherever it is, there are likely hundreds of myths and stereotypes I could throw at you, but I won't.