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  • Right now, sad to say, Trump is winning that vibes battle.

    I don't see any evidence for this. Of course, the media has a shiny new story to obsess about but that's not the same thing.

    • Biden's polling has been tanking, aligning with the popular protesting against the Palestinian Genocide and the recent poor debate performance, with major calls for him to step down even from within the DNC.

      Trump's polling has been rising, his voters are unified, and he has managed to pull an amazing PR victory out of his assassination attempt.

      Trump doesn't look better now to Biden voters. Trump looks better to Trump voters than Biden looks to Biden voters, which is what will matter more than appealing to centrists this election.

      • Ah, polling.

        I guess you have more faith in the accuracy of that than I do.

        • Not the hard numbers, no, but trends? Yes.

            • We aren't talking about people switching from Biden to Trump. We are talking about people actually showing up to vote on Election Day.

              Nobody is undecided between them if voting was mandatory, what is up for flux is which side will show up more.

              • Trump’s polling has been rising, his voters are unified, and he has managed to pull an amazing PR victory out of his assassination attempt.

                You mentioned that you put some stock in the polling. I indulged you by posting a link showing no bump for Trump post-shooting. Now you say it's down to turnout which is pretty much a given.

                I'm honestly not sure what point you're trying to make here.

                • By polling, I mean voter turnout, not which way voters would vote if they do vote.

                  It's down to turnout, yes. America does not have mandatory voting, ergo whichever candidate can unify and energize their base will win. Centrists already know who they are voting for, proved by the link you provided.

                  Biden is seeing constant controversy among likely democrat voters, meanwhile Trump is the current GOP darling.

                  I really don't see how the DNC can pull out a win unless they pull out all support from Israel and/or toss Biden and bring on someone younger, with broader appeal and higher energy.

                  • I really don’t see how the DNC can pull out a win unless they pull out all support from Israel and/or toss Biden and bring on someone younger, with broader appeal and higher energy.

                    They win by hammering the point that a Trump victory means the end of the US in its current form. No hyperbole.

                    • Doubtful that that will bring out voters. Historically, voters voting for something outperform voters voting against something.

                      • You really don't think that preventing a national ban on abortion will bring out voters? How about a reversal on tackling climate change? Maybe voting to stop a slide into christofascist authoritarianism?

                        Come on.

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