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And have you ever had the kratom "wobbles" before?

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  • Never had the pleasure, but I do Buprenorphine every day and I hear it's similar. Anyone have experience with both who can confirm? They're both partial agonists at the mu opioid receptor, which results in them not having the lethal overdose problem that regular opioids have. Though Buprenorphine is massively stronger in terms of both potency and receptor affinity, a huge boon for addiction treatment because the high affinity results in a blockade effect preventing weaker opioids from working even if they're full agonists.

    Still, they are similar enough that if I ever wanted to ditch Buprenorphine, I'd probably replace it with Kratom. That'd be much cheaper too, apparently you can bulk order Kratom by the kilo for pretty cheap. Maybe I'd go for the 7-OH-Mitragynine extract route for a while if it's not banned by the time I get to that stage in my life.

    7OH is a derivative of the usual Mitragynine found in Kratom, but it's massively more potent and has none of the wobbles side effect you get with high doses of Mitragynine. It's also a partial agonist, so it retains a great safety profile, but nonetheless the potency of this very available opioid has scared a lot of people into lobbying to ban it. Including some of the groups that originally successfully lobbied the DEA away from banning Kratom a few years ago, unfortunately.

    • I was on subs for about a year and this asshole nurse woman cut me off because I missed a couple of appointments.

      Cut me off cold turkey dude while I was in the middle of withdrawal. Fuck that woman, soured me on ever getting on subs again.

      Literally told me to go to detox and just grab a blanket pretty much and white knuckle it.

      • Fuck. That. So. Much. I started to taper pretty much as soon as I got on subs because I was so worried about getting cut off. It took me 9 months of being sick every single day and a week of regular ass H style withdraw once I jumped off. They call subs and methadone chemical handcuffs for a reason.

      • Fuck, that's really awful, sorry this happened to you. Like, this shit is patient abandonment. It really should be illegal to kick people off maintenance opioids without VERY good reason. Bupe withdrawals are torturous, often worse than the withdrawals you get from full agonists because they last so long. That kind of reckless abandon with people's treatment can easily result in relapse and fatal overdose.

        • Right I could understand if she had evidence I was not taking my medication and selling it on the streets. That's fair, I relapsed once even and the previous nurse just kind of warned me we would have to look at another route, if it kept happening.

          She didn't fucking cut me off cold turkey though.

          Thinking about it, I still get pissed off. Nothing I can do now though.

          Basically it's why I take kratom now. To keep opioid cravings at bay, because the nurse at the local health center did that to me.

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