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Stop Overreacting!
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They're going to nominate Liz Cheney next time lol
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The have to KEEP GOING RIGHT until it works again like it did with Clinton!
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You say that as if the Democrats protect the people who vote for them
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Exactly! So why are you asking them to!?
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"You will be happy with the breadcrumbs we give."
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You take more than they give you, I won’t eat crumbs and I won’t rely on democrats to feed me scraps. I decided a long time ago if they won’t play by the rules why should any of us?
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Maybe pass electoral reform in your state so we can be free to vote for who best represents us without a spoiler effect.
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i don't think your overlords would let that happen if it meant it would actually represent your interests. people will only get what they want if they take a bit of power, not beg the rich to lend a bit of theirs.
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Some states do have alternative voting organization, it's not impossible.
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my country has mandatory voting. we still get far right populists every time. the voting system in and of itself aint the issue.
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It's worth pointing out that in Maine, which has instant runoff voting, it was the Republicans who most aggressively opposed its implementation and sued to try to reverse the results of an instant runoff election that they lost. The voting system needs to be repaired, but even within the system as it exists, there is one party that has a proven track record of actively trying to make it worse.
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And California had Newsom block it: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Gavin-Newsom-vetoes-bill-to-allow-ranked-choice-14535193.php
I don't think it's Republicans, it's just the most popular party of the state it's in.
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I got a pay wall on that story. Is there another source?
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Always odd when my broke ass gets the article but no one else does, sorry about that. Here's a copy paste as I'm on mobile for the time being, alont with a direct link to the Veto:
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/SB-212-Veto-Message.pdf
To paraphrase Mel Brooks, it’s good to be the governor.
More than 17 years after San Francisco approved ranked-choice voting over the objections of then-Supervisor Gavin Newsom, California’s first-year governor got a chance for some payback, vetoing a bill that would have allowed more cities, counties and school districts across the state to switch to the voting system.
The bill, SB212 by state Sen. Ben Allen, D-Santa Monica, was overwhelmingly approved by both the state Senate and the Assembly. An analysis of the bill found no opposition.
"The cure being proposed is far worse than the disease,” Newsom said as he joined a ballot argument against Proposition A in 2002, which brought ranked-choice elections to San Francisco. “We do not believe that the Board (of Supervisors) should be experimenting with San Franciscans’ hard-fought right to vote. Primaries and runoff elections have served our nation well for most of its history.”
Sixteen years after San Francisco’s first ranked-choice election, the system is hardly an unknown in California. Oakland, Berkeley and San Leandro have used it since 2010.
But all those are charter cities, which can make their own election rules, unlike general law cities, counties and school districts, which follow a set of state regulations.
The bill that Newsom vetoed would have given “local jurisdictions access to solutions that charter cities are already using in California,” Allen, its author, said in a statement. It wouldn’t have imposed ranked choice, but simply provided “communities with more options.”
That wasn’t good enough for Newsom, who said, “The state would benefit from learning more from charter cities who use ranked choice voting before broadly expanding the system.”
But would more evidence change the governor’s mind?
During a campaign bus trip to San Jose last year, a reporter asked Newsom if he planned to take San Francisco’s ranked-choice experience statewide.
Newsom just rolled his eyes.
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Yes, if we just keep awarding their willful ineptitude with blind loyalty and unquestioning obedience for a couple more decades, they're SURE to move the bar higher than "mostly not quite as awful as the alternative" of their own volition!
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What’s your alternative? Letting the republicans and trump win? Sounds like a great plan guys
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a starting point is class consciousness. politics is more than just voting every x number of years. on one side the longer we wait the worse it gets, but on the other many people are already doing what they can. fascism was defeated before a few times, we can do it.
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Electoral reform, giving voters the freedom to vote for whichever party they prefer while ensuring their vote will count against the Republicans if their preference didn't win.
Is this a great enough plan for you?
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Great, why haven't you done it yet?
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They're too busy peacefully occupying some sidewalk where oligarchs don't walk, and dispersing peacefully when the police ask them to or threaten them with a citation/fine. Americans are cowards, it's why the vast majority of exercised 2nd ammendment practices are on themselves.
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You're not in the neolib safe space so; no, voting dem without ever holding them accountable in over a hundred years on literally anything has caused this situation. Harris would have given you four more years, at most, in the most optimistic circumstances, before this happened. America can't end any other way than this, and America is approaching it's end regardless of what you do.
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Wait, you're not even American and you're simping for their genocidal fascists? Buddy, it's you who we're facepalming at.
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I'm not American, dipshit.
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If you're not in the US, then learn. Don't have a choice that is only between two fascist parties.
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