3d ago

FDA's top vaccine scientist is forced out

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FDA's top vaccine scientist is out, citing Kennedy's 'misinformation and lies'

Summary

Dr. Peter Marks, the FDA’s top vaccine regulator, resigned after reportedly being forced out amid clashes with Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In his resignation letter, Marks wrote that Kennedy wanted "subservient confirmation of his misinformation and lies."

He criticized Kennedy’s stance on vaccines, accusing him of undermining public confidence.

Marks, who led the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research since 2016, played a key role in authorizing Covid vaccines and spearheading Operation Warp Speed. Kennedy, an anti-vaccine activist, has questioned the safety of Covid and MMR vaccines despite scientific consensus.

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2d ago

FDA's top vaccine scientist is out, citing Kennedy's 'misinformation and lies'

www.nbcnews.com /health/health-news/fdas-top-vaccine-scientist-dr-peter-marks-rcna198682

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Europe should start to limit US citizens migration. Demand vaccine lists. Common sense tests. The EU is slow, so it is better to start now to be ready when the US will finally go totally crazy in a few years.
- a few years
  Yeah no, measles wont take that long to take over the entire country. We really gotta do something fast.
  
  Temporal anomaly, Lemmist started writing that reply in early 2020. Something about transiting would-be assassins disrupting the flow of time; eggheads in the lab call it time-bulance. It's probably fine.
- We (US) don't even have a vaccine record system to my knowledge. I've had many vaccines starting from birth but the only record I have in the vast majority of cases is knowing it in my head. I remember getting a few like MMR (measles mumps rubella) vaccines as a young child, but there's almost zero chance I could prove that.
  Hell, the only reason I even know what I have gotten as an adult is I made a list a while back from memory and then confirmed what I could with doctors visit records.
  Your idea would keep me, a fully vaccinated individual, out of Europe. A place I want to escape to eventually.
  
  You are right that the US has no national vaccine database. However some States have their own records database. I know mine does for instance. They know all the vaccines I’ve ever had. This does depend on the doctor/provider/hospital reporting to the State that they administered you a vaccine.
  
  Correct, many states have their own databases. It was part of my job while in retail pharmacy in Oregon to check vaccination histories prior to giving them to verify they're getting correct boosters at the right time
  
  Thanks for this tip. I've lived in three states. I'll check them. I didn't know about this!
  
  Your idea would keep me, a fully vaccinated individual, out of Europe. A place I want to escape to eventually.
  First, it isn't a European problem. It is your problem.
  Second, I'm sure (not a specialist and can't prove but still sure) that vaccination can be proved medically (just test for antibodies upon injective a minor amount of virus/bacteria)
  
  Sure act like trump. That's the solution. Next you should close your borders entirely.
  Some vaccines that may be possible but I can't imagine it would be cheap even if you could check for the 20+ vaccines I've had.
  Your motivation seems to be to punish good people for Trump's actions. Pretty fucked up, petty, pointless, and unproductive if you ask me.
  
  The well-being of locals is much more important to me than some may-be-vaccined-or-maybe-bilogical-bomb American whiner.
  The best I can offer is a vaccination koncentrazionlager. No proof of vaccination? Behind the barbed wire off you go. Get your vaccines, wait a few weeks and, if everything is ok, go further.
  You Americans for some crazy reason think that you should be let into any place because you're American. Many people are sick of your chauvinism. "How dare you not to let me in?! I am American!"
  Pffft.
  
  This is not "I am an American and you should let me in" it's very much "I'm fleeing my country for political persecution please allow refugees in from this shit hole country"
  Good to know nationalism, inhumane conditions, and good old fashioned concentration camps are acceptable as long as it's "hurting the right people"!
  
  Europeans love their hubris. Don't count on them getting off their high horse anytime soon. They'll laugh at us while we die. We are on our own.
  
  We are on our own.
  Yes, America, you are.
  Because your government is doing everything they can to isolate you from the rest of the world.
  America is racing down the road to becoming a pariah state, and far too few of your fellow citizens are willing to do anything to even try to stop it.
  It's not the rest of the world's job to save you from yourselves. We are doing what we need to do to protect ourselves from your rapidly declining country.
  
  If it weren't for your horrible shit attitude we could probably talk. But go ahead with your generalizations and assumptions. Thank God for tags in Boost
  
  Actually, it’s common and standard for countries to require vaccination records to immigrate. I had the same problem when I moved, I only had paper records that my parents could no longer find. I ended up just getting all of them again at once. Insurance helped (I didn’t have to pay anything out of pocket). Also, it’s not a lot. In the US, they require around 4-5 vaccines (MMR, TDAP, HEP, varicella, and covid which they recently made optional) to pass permanent residency requirements, not all the 20 you got. I imagine EU countries require around just as much.
  
  So that sounds reasonable and so I'm not sure what op was so mad about or suggesting. I thought they were also referring to visits.
  
  To be fair, you did say the EU was a place you eventually want to “escape to”, so people likely assumed you meant immigration, not just visiting/tourist.
  
  Which was in response to him being an absolutist. But I do see your point. Thanks for being nicer about it
  
  I'm saying for those of us over 20 years old it's probably hard or impossible to prove anything. I think it's rather ironic that the reaction to trump being a piece of shit isolationist is to further isolate, not the government but people trying to escape it.
  
  You apparently misunderstood in two ways. I'm saying if you were vaccinated for measles in 1987 it's unlikely you have a record of it. Not a damned thing to do with understanding. Nor did I hint that being younger was any sort of disadvantage.
  
  Some vaccines that may be possible but I can't imagine it would be cheap even if you could check for the 20+ vaccines I've had.
  How much were you expecting your "escape" to Europe to cost?
  
  40,000 USD minimum
  
  Tack on a few hundred for vaccinations, it'll disappear into that.
  
  I wish the US had a vaccine record. The only record I have of my childhood vaccines are on some 30 year old pieces of paper in a folder somewhere in my house. A national record would make me feel safer about the possibility of a house fire and losing these papers.
  I like the covid vaccine record. Somehow, those have followed me digitally between towns without me having to produce the card. More of that please.
  
  Agreed. I don't think I have any of the paper ones anymore except COVID

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