“Tip of the iceberg”: Experts sound the alarm after Trump blabbed nuclear secrets at Mar-a-Lago
“Tip of the iceberg”: Experts sound the alarm after Trump blabbed nuclear secrets at Mar-a-Lago
Trump allegedly told an Australian billionaire potentially sensitive info — which he then shared with 45 others.
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to which an excited Trump — "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet — then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.
Holy fucking fuck.
This guy needs to be in jail. He’s deliberately leaked sources and methods, national nuclear information, and intelligence on foreign forces. Never in the history of the country has there been such a person in charge of national security. He is such a total waste that he thinks the president of the fucking United States needs to show off in front of foreign government officials by leaking national security secrets.
What an absolute piece of shallow-ego shit.
And he did it for clout, to impress somebody. He couldn’t even be a normal traitor and do it for money or idealogical reasons.
it’s somehow even more stupid imo… like… he blabbed about the fact that he had this information and the other guy would have been like “yeah… we know you know… you’re the fucking president”
Riiiiight? This is the weird fucking guy who just walks up to someone they fancy at a party, sight unseen, and just blurts out something fucking stupid like "Hey, good lookin'. I drive a BMW." and expects applause or sex appeal. Who the fuck raises these people?!?!
That reminds me of this Christmas party we had at work, two friends of mine, one of them being a girl I worked with started hooking up, and so when they arrived to the party, the guy called me over, and he was like, hey, don't tell nobody but I've been beating that pussy up for the past 2 hours, I'm like ok man, whatever, I won't tell anybody. Then he turns around and starts calling out to someone else and tells them the exact same thing. I'm like dude, who the fuck cares?
Well that's just...graphic and sad. Why would anybody do that?
Some people are just fucking losers.
Who the fuck raises these people?!?!
Fred Trump and the Fred Trump shaped hole in Don's soul.
In addition, nuclear secrets are a whole category of secret that the President does not have the authority to reveal
And if he does that for clout, what would he tell if say, someone knew some insider shit he’s been up to?
Someone that has access to top-notch intel gathering.
Someone…. Russian.
Hands down, there’s no doubt Putin knows everything about our military. Everything.
Probably more than Putin knows about his own armed forces.
And how many enlisted men will continue to support him and vote for him? How many vets will give up their families instead of giving up their cult-like reverence for him?
Just an astounding level of ignorance in this country.
Actually, at this point it's more than ignorance, it's straight up malice. We have to understand that the proles on the right live in an echo chamber and will never see this story, and that's by design. Between the Fox News deliberately and knowingly misleading the country about it, and more important, the entire Republican Party (with your occasional Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitt Romney, etc.) it hard for the rank and file to have any real clue what's going on. Toss in years of ensuring that their base is not educated through their deliberate dismantling of public education and religious indoctrination. It's extremely important to note that you don't get to Trump without the entire party of complicit cowards who are either ignoring the damage he's doing, or are actively encouraging it because they're traitorous fucks, and that it hasn't happened overnight. This has been a very long game, and it's not an accident.
There have been folks lock away forever or banned to Russia for doing less than Trump.
- I absolutely agree with you. That dude is a walking national disaster. He has absolutely committed treason and dumped his fair share of state secrets.
2a) As someone that’s stood in front of warhead racks and slumped around our national fleet of nuclear power and war-readiness secrets protecting a shit-fuck-ton of civilians just buying groceries and paying their internet bills, no he fucking doesn’t know shit. Unlike our constitution, our science-minded forefathers absolutely built in safeguards for “Idiocracy” moments. The chain of command for “Fuck You and Your Entire Lineage’ information doesn’t involve a bunch of suburbanite tailored suits parading around as representatives of the public. Bro got the accountant’s version of a monthly accrual report, at best. I trust that many other national governments also have this chain of command, or we would’ve had nuclear war a generation ago. These idiots are unstable af.
2b) No I won’t elaborate. You think they trusted some idiot on the internet with all that info? lol no
When Trump took office, he was unable to answer a question of what the US nuclear triad consists of. Basically, its land, sea, and air capabilities for strategic attack with nuclear weapons. He literally did not know that.
Based on everything we’ve heard about how the man operates, he probably received a standard presidential briefing on readiness. However, it is also my understanding that Jared Kushner, despite being denied a security clearance multiple times for failing background checks and his ties to foreign government officials, asked for and received briefings on classified information he had no reason for knowing. The problem is that “need to know” goes out the window when it’s the president’s son in law.
I suspect everyone involved with the administration knew about Trump and his family, but were also limited to what they could legally do. Maybe they made sure he didn’t know anything you couldn’t get from Jane’s or Aviation Week, but he also could have gotten highly classified briefings on, eg, our ability to crack in Syria or Iran using sea-based systems.
Here’s where I’m coming from:
- Trump actively leaked classified information to foreign actors and non-cleared persons. This is not contested.
- On the occasions we know about, he seemed to do so to make himself seem important. I cannot imagine the psychology of a person who is the president of the United States and still feels like his ego needs a boost by telling some ambassador about US military or intelligence secrets.
- We don’t yet know if he also did so on the basis of payment, but I strongly suspect that Kushner was also actively soliciting information and the Trump family, including Kushner, received billions of dollars and other considerations from foreign governments.
- Trump and his inner circle were the source of a huge number of the leaks coming out of the White House as palace intrigue drove them to make plays for public perception. They also tended to deal with foreign governments the same way (eg, “I will do X but I’m going to want a favor…”)
I’m pretty far from being a hawk at this point in my lifetime, but even I think that Trump should be jailed and have his communications monitored for the rest of his life, and the same needs to be on the table for other members of his closest circles, including family members. The Constitution tried to take things like selfishness into account in creating the balances of power that they used, but they had no idea that someone could be elected President and have the full support of party members in both chambers of Congress as well as the politicized judiciary even if they were actively engaged in selling national security intelligence to hostile countries. Between their conception of the role of noblesse oblige on the part of people rich enough to get elected, and the idea that people would defend their role as congressional representatives over their personal/party based goals, they were wrong.
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