IDF extends evacuation order to October 14th
IDF extends evacuation order to October 14th
The IDF Spokesman Twitter account for Arabic has published guidance for Gazans to evacuate along two main roads between 10am and 4pm today (October 14th).
Translation courtesy of @hassanmckusick:
#Urgent Important statement for residents of Gaza City In recent days, we have appealed to you to leave Gaza City to the south of Wadi Gaza in order to preserve your safety. I would like to inform you that the IDF will allow movement on the indicated streets without any harm between the hours of 10:00 - 16:00. For your safety, take advantage of the short time to move towards the south - from Beit Hanoun to Khan Yunis. If you care about yourself and your loved ones, go south as instructed. Rest assured that Hamas leaders have taken care of themselves and are taking cover from strikes in the region. Residents of Al-Shati, Al-Rimal and West Al-Zaytoun will also be allowed to move on Daldul and Al-Sanaa Streets towards my street By At Saladin and the sea
Jerboa doesn't show the link and the picture together: https://twitter.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1713065991511388610
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Here's approximately how long it would take to traverse from inside the city to outside the circle: https://i.imgur.com/aZxkGlt.png
Except you have a million people trying to do the same, that's extra extra extra taffic
Imagine hauling your grandma and toddlers across 24km of crowded street with occasional rubbles, and you need to cross them within 6 hours or risk a fiery death. Totally doable! /s
Because everyone has a car and driving through rubble is no problem. Especially with a million people who do not have electricity, fuel or food.
When Israel were under attack, the entire country joined together and helped people evacuate from their destroyed homes. Also the military and security forces. Not saying it's easy, but it certainly is doable if Gaza was a functioning society. Sadly, it's not.
I take no position, if this is good or bad. I have my opinion but I don't want any arguments with either side, so I just posted objective facts.
I was just curious on the distance and figured other people would also want to know.
It is also an objective fact that only about 1/3 of Palestinian households own a car so for the average able bodied Palestinian it will be a ~4.5 hour walk assuming no traffic
And then throw in the fact that they're displacing over a million people. There will be traffic like never before.
It's not my fault if someone didn't do their own research when making up their minds from my image.
I posted one fact, I don't have to post every single fact in the world.
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I posted what I posted before they started to attack the evacuating civilians or at least before I knew about it.
I later posted a link to an article about the bombings. What's up with Lemmy users not reading the thread before commenting?
I mainly used Google maps to know the distance, and the time helps with visualisation of the length.
If you think that the estimate was exactly correct, you are lost.
And if you look at any footage of the evacuation you would see that traveling by car is possible.
Maybe it's uncommon or it's slower than anticipated, but don't pretend it's impossible, because it clearly is.
That may be but don't argue with me about it.
I just posted an image from Google.
Your link is assuming more or less perfect conditions, right now probably some of this road is destroyed and completely packed with people, livestock and what not.
Yeah, obviously.
I just checked just now and it still alright fine, but that doesn't matter when Israel bombs the "safe" route anyways: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67108364
Maybe google's congestion tracking doesn't work well there, dunno.
This would only work if people are using their phones for navigation, considering that electricity and fuel are short, I don't think many people were keeping their phones switched on.
terrible time to assume they are using cars
Right? How can they afford a car if they can't even afford food and are unemployed.
no fuel, no power, no food, no water.
Thanks for sharing. I wonder what the walking estimate is and driving with traffic.
The walking estimate is around 5 hours
If you're a healthy adult and not bringing all your remaining possessions, your elderly parents and your children.
Yes obviously, that goes without saying.
It's a walking estimate and those obviously assume that you walk at an average constant pace for 5 hours without slowing down (or up) or stopping.
The estimate isn't for estimating how long it will take them. It's for getting an idea on how far it is. Then you can estimate time on your own, with variables such as children, bringing your stuff, etc.
It's a lot easier to visualize the distance if you have an estimate of what it would take you, compared to a fancy map with no scale or anything.
Thank you! I can't imagine being in that situation.
