Selling the illusion of access: Devon Archer testifies about Hunter Biden’s use of his father’s ‘brand’
Selling the illusion of access: Devon Archer testifies about Hunter Biden’s use of his father’s ‘brand’
Devon Archer testified that Hunter Biden was selling "the brand" and it was Joe Biden who "brought the most value to the brand."
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When did it become illegal to say "do you know who my father is?"
Lots of kids in salmon colored shorts are heading to prison!!
Around the same time as when it became only allowable when trump’s spawn does it.
Funny how they never talk about the millions one child made, the Chinese patents, or the billions the SIL was given. While working for the administration.
Word salad
I suppose it can count as influence peddling, which is definitely unethical. The hard thing to establish is that this was done with the full knowledge of Joe Biden, but I'm sure that's what the GOP is gunning for.
And sure, you can say "Ivanka and Kushner did the same thing," and that's kind of the point. The GOP wants you to think the other side is as awful as they are.
I'll never vote for Hunter or Jared for political office. That much is sure.
One of those two was a senior advisor to a president and was making decisions that affected us like an elected official would:
and
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/jared-kushner-affinity-partners-saudi-arabia
Like one of the two is a bigger deal by a factor of 1000x
So what? It may be unsavory, but I don’t see how any of this is illegal. And I especially don’t see why they should be wasting taxpayer dollars on this huge circus of an investigation into something that’s not illegal. Hunter Biden is not an elected official, nor does he hold public office appointed, or otherwise. He’s a private citizen, and going after him is just a slimy way of attacking Joe Biden indirectly because the Republicans don’t have anything on him. 
If the only defense you have for the behavior is "well its not illegal!" then you're pretty much just admitting it's indefensible. It's just as corrupt when Joe Biden's kid does it as it is when Trump's spawn do. If he's so unaffiliated and detached from his father as a private, non-political citizen then why do you care if he gets put through the wringer for being an influence peddling little shit?
what would you like us to do about not-illegal behavior involving not-the-president? you're not the president, and presumably you've done things that are not illegal, so keep that in mind when you formulate your response.
When people engage in shit I find to be immoral I do not care a single bit when they face consequences for the immoral things they did. Legality is not part of my moral calculus. You're right that Im not the son of the president so I don't have to worry about this bullshit slippery slope you've conjured to deflect with.
Then, why do you hypocritically keep demanding that a private citizen be dragged before Congress for a complete circus sham of a hearing when there’s no evidence that he broke the law, other than the fact that you just don’t like him, of course….?
And why should Congress give a shit about your “moral calculus”? 
who said Hunter Biden needs a defense? he’s not accountable to you or to anyone.
he doesn’t hold nor is he running for public office. he’s a private citizen. HE'S ALLOWED TO BE A SCUMBAG. and if you don’t like that, too bad.
he doesn’t owe you or anyone else an explanation, a defense, or anything else.
Do you think it should be legal for people to go around using your father's political position to peddle your influence? Are you unwilling to entertain the idea that it's possible he did do something that actually is illegal while being an immoral scumbag? If not, then why not just shrug your shoulders and let them fight it out, instead of rushing to point out how totally legal it is to be a piece of shit.
It has nothing to do with my feelings or your paranoid rhetoric. It has to do with the facts of the matter, and whether you have any evidence at hand that warrants dragging him before congressional committee just because you don’t like who his dad is. Which you don’t.
You're right that I don't like Biden. I don't think it's paranoid to suggest that someone who was blatantly peddling influence may have possibly run afoul of one of the few toothless corruption laws we have. Personally, I'd like to see all dynastic influence peddling political children dragged before a congressional committee, especially Trump's, but I'm not gonna cry foul because the one that got bit by it is the one whose father falls closer (but still quite far from) my beliefs on some political spectrum. If he wanted to remain a private citizen free from political and public scrutiny, then he shouldn't have gone around selling access to his familial political connections.
But that’s exactly what you’re doing: crying foul, and you don’t have any evidence that he’s doing that. Once again, you’re using circular logic in order to justify dragging someone before a congressional hearings because you don’t like their father, and you have suspicions. Suspicions, not evidence. In this country, your hatred of his father, combined with your own paranoia are not nearly enough. 
You're making it sound like being called into a congressional hearing is some great injustice, though. It's not a court of law, what is and isn't illegal isn't super relevant here. His job in Ukraine for that gas company was pretty transparent influence peddling. He has no qualifications for it and by all accounts he didn't really do much of anything but collect a paycheck.
You're welcome to not believe that I guess, but I think that would make you pretty gullible. A lot of politicians' children do this. On both sides. I cannot bring myself to care about the only one to have to actually stand in congress and try to justify it.
You’re making it sound like being called into a congressional hearing is some great injustice, though.
being harassed on a congressional level IS a great injustice, especially if thy have no legal reason to do it.
It’s not a court of law, what is and isn’t illegal isn’t super relevant here
wrong. people can be (and have been) tried and convicted in congress.
His job in Ukraine for that gas company was pretty transparent influence peddling
if there was any real evidence of that, or of it being illegal, then prove it in a court of law. But there isn’t, which is why people like you want to loudly insinuate it in a public circus in a congressional hearing. this brings us right back to the pint with you circular reasoning.
You’re welcome to not believe that I guess, but I think that would make you pretty gullible.
because there’s no evidence, just insinuations and innuendo from the far-right. And if YOU want to believe rumors and propaganda over evidence and proof, then I’m not the gullible one.
A lot of politicians’ children do this.
so what? if you can find evidence of illegality, indict them and take them to court. I don’t see you crying foul over Trump’s kids doing the same… double standard much? lmao
I cannot bring myself to care about the only one to have to actually stand in congress and try to justify it.
Once again, why would any private citizen who doesn’t hold pubic office have to justify anything to you, especially when there’s no evidence they broke the law— especially by being dragged in font of congress? you keep refusing to answer this question.
I don't think anyone on either side of the aisle (except for the most die-hard thoughtless folks I suppose) would argue against it being immoral, but that's the whole point - immoral != illegal
You can absolutely look down on Hunter for doing it, hell, you can absolutely look down on Joe for not coming down on Hunter for it, but there's no crime here, despite the conservative medias best efforts to make it seem like there is one, so they can report on that instead of the numerous actual crimes that Trump is on trial for.
Don't tease...
Salmon colored shorts…lol
Thanks for the chuckle, I needed that.
I'm reposting this comment because it's relevant:
"I think you’re missing the point. It’s one thing to use your parents’ influence to get ahead in business, but it’s another thing entirely to use their influence to withhold international aid and pressure a foreign government to kill a corruption investigation into the company that you just so happen to sit on the board of. Granted, these are all just allegations at this point, but that’s why this case is receiving so much attention."
The latter half of the quote again just shows how shitty this comparison is. Didn't Trump threaten to withhold funding from Ukraine, to be used in the event that Russia attacked (unthinkable!), unless they gave up dirt that could be used against Biden?
https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-confirms-trump-withheld-ukraine-military-aid-in-part-because-of-dnc-server-rumors-180854146.htmlGranted, these are all just allegations at this point
Very dubious allegations that they are failing to prove when you consider that their own witness testified that Hunter and Joe Biden would discuss casual, personal matters in the phone and explicitly not Hunter Biden’s business.
Yep. If Hunter Biden did those things he should held accountable. Same as tax fraud.
The larger issue is that it appears Joe was entirely not involved. I mean, if I killed my neighbor would my father stand trial alongside me? Nope.
It's relevant in showing that you're only interested in posting talking points, not actual reality, or anything that you actually know yourself. Otherwise you'd be embarrassed to post something this wrong
You're talking about trump and the trump crime syndicate when they attempted extortion on the Ukrainian government and were impeached for it, yes?