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What is this Luddite shit?
We have the means to look after people and develop advanced technologies (except the genetically enchanting, that sound a bit ethically sketch).
So why don't we look after people if we have the means?
Who has the means? Why don't they share and use their wealth to really help people and create progress?
And why do we let them act this way?
We as in humans, on Earth, right now.
Why? Because we’re under a dysfunctional system.
They don't share it because it's theirs
And this is not okay.
There needs to be limit on how much wealth a single person can accumulate.
Because you want to have a say in other people's businesses
No, because I don't want to live in a world where one guy can roam the oceans on his superyacht while children starve and people die because they do not have "money".
No one's starving in a first world country.
This is like when ahmadinejad said "in Iran, we don't have homosexuals"
Yeah, fuck those other guys over there, who cares about people in far away countries, right?
Seriously, we are a global society, and we need to think globally.
No matter where people starve, we should prevent that. And we can. We just choose not to, because "no one is starving in a first world country".
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Not rightfully so
Because you said so
No, because the only reason this wealth exist is because people who make close to the median income put hours of their life into their project (and some gave their health and life for them). Take these people off the equation and the rich are nothing, yet they have more money than all the people who've accomplished all the work will make in their lifetime... combined!
There are arguments based on the moral foundations of property rights that illustrate this
They don't deserve it and they do deserve to be poor.
Yes we could if the rich paid their fair share in taxes and didn't hog all the wealth. All they do is drizzle some tiny amount to the public here and there to appear generous and get tax benefits.
The vast majority of their money just gets wasted for their egomaniacal projects in an attempt to be remembered forever.
None of the shit they are developing is going to safe us from extreme climate change. In fact those same people are a heavy driving force behind climate change.
Right, capitalists suck, we all know this.
Comic could have had the rich cunts behind oil companies withholding climate data, car manufacturers lying about the safety of their products, housing companies kicking out a poor family, etc.
Instead they chose to go after the technology instead of the people or their evil choices.
Hence it being Luddite shit.
the specific people are all (with the exception of Sam Altmann) grifters. they are
- guy whose sub imploded at the titanic
2 Sam Altman, head of OpenAI (which went from charity to a wing of Microsoft). - Sam Bankman Freid's brother, who was talking about buying an island to carry "effective altruists" through an extinction-level event.
It pisses me off that these are the first EA adjacent people that are broadly well-known, rather than Givewell and 80,000 hours, who are actually doing good work.
EA is entirely a scam.
EA is primarily advice for people with moderate amounts of disposable income (i.e. middle class), or people trying to figure out their career trajectory. Earn to give is very much a minority position, and that's pretty much the only one that at all involves aiming to be rich.
Longtermism is mostly a weird set of academics. the recent folks using it as a pretext to buy houses in the Caribbean are almost purely a group of cryptobros using it as a way to ethics-wash their pump and dump.
Sounds like you're still learning. There are assumptions baked into that, which only support the elite.
oh fuck off presumptive twat
What am I presuming?
Nah, EA is alright if done properly. The "Longtermism" aspect is pure bullshit though.
EA is just PR. It's a way to get rich while pretending to do good.
- guy whose sub imploded at the titanic
Do you think destroying the planet is progress? These are jackasses doing more harm than good and they're labeling their stupid visions as progress. Central planning is filled with issues, right? Well a few rich people shaping the world to their liking is pretty damn centralized.
You actually think some programmers and scientists creating a language model is destroying the world?
I’d say that belongs to the large investment firms, and the billionaires who decide to do things like bury climate data and push propaganda that climate change isn’t a thing for the last 100 years.
But hey, you do you champ!
So you decided to focus on the chatbot mention in the comic while ignoring the entire overarching point of the comic? Someone who thinks as robotically as you should fear for their job.
But hey, you do you chimp!
No, I focused on the technology and said we should be attacking the billionaires not the technology.
Space travel and computer science isn’t destroying the world, authoritarians and the ruling classes are.
Using the technology, yes. They're having wet dreams about using AI to replace people.
Im having wet dreams about that too.
Imagine human value decoupled from our labour. Every job we can eliminate is a win for humanity.
You recognize that billionaires are the problem but don't see how they're going to use this new automation to make things hell for the rest of us?
The problem isn’t the technology, it’s the system.
So direct your anger at the right target.
Okay. Let's just chalk it up to you missing the point of the comic and move on.
Lets' chalk it up to you missing my original point of target the system and the people behind it not the technology.
What's next, we shouldn't create life saving medicine because rich people could use it to charge more and get rich? Fuck off out of here with your luddite nonsense.