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Yeah because the time to work on candidates is past. You can still push for better secretaries and ask Biden to move leftward, but he is the candidate for this cycle and he's doing what he's doing.
If you want to have a meaningful conversation, you need to look to 26 and 28
You're willing to let innocent people die so you can try again in the next election? Bye, liberal.
do you have anything like a plan that will help the numerous endangered groups
If you have ideas, please feel free to share them in a post
i think we build local community, we take care of each other and survive, we learn about revolutionary spontaneity, and we bide our time until the moment is right
That's my thought as well. Collect allies, try to dispel non-allies of their propaganda (very hard), create microcosms that gradually become bigger movements that eventually consume the state
But in the meantime, it's hard not to consider the situation dire and urgent on a grand scale when we see people being tortured, killed, and subjugated for the interests of a privileged few. It's easy for me to sit behind my keyboard and tell others what they "should" do. It's another thing entirely to be a person with friends and loved ones who've been directly harmed by our leaders, or to see it from their point of view.
it is hard. it is dire and urgent. but to the original post, non-voting doesn't currently buy any power (though that may change), and trump is worse, so I'm still going to vote biden while supporting my communities and helping those who have been harmed locally
That's fine. That's one opinion about how to cope with the current situation, and I won't tell you otherwise. I tend to agree.
I just don't want happening here what I see in the politics communities on some other instances where people are disparaged, shouted down, or even dehumanized for expressing so much as a hesitancy to vote for Biden. I want to take care that this doesn't happen here. I firmly believe that if anything, such tactics only serve to discourage people from voting.
We've had multiple posts in this community from people describing why they're choosing to vote Biden that don't undermine our grave concerns about him in the process. I've always welcomed people to make such posts.
I'm not American, but you make some very good points. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to that other person
hey, how is your part of the world? I'm trying to maintain hope that the rest of the world is going to be okay [under the approximation that America will soon be doing very poorly]
We're doing alright. Like so many places, we're struggling to keep terrified conservatives from throwing away the last hundred years of social and material progress.
But we're predominantly more left leaning than the US, so it's not so so bad. I wish we were more to the left leaning, but I suppose I should be thankful for what we have.
In my local circle, I'm seeing much more direct action and mutual aid, which gives me some hope for the future. We all know things are going to get worse, but there's no reason we have to go the everyone-for-themselves route.
I know there are many groups suffering under Biden's leadership, and no I'm not sure how to stop that
I speak up, I send money, I support the protestors, and I'm very involved locally
I'd suggest local involvemen. We've helped undocumented workers evade deportation, tried to establish community support networks, etc.
But as far as dismantling the United States so we can solve the actual problem? Yeah, we need to work on that
I mean, you're willing to throw trans Americans, lgbtq+ Americans, minority Americans of every stripe, and anyone else the Right deems undesirable under the Fascism Train because of your specific cause you happen to deem more important than everyone else's.
How very entitled if you to be both-sidsing that shit.
It is clear you don't consider Palestinians, immigrants, or poor Americans worthy of allyship. Fuck out of here with this strawman version of me you've created.
Bidens not even an ally. You think someone who is willing to torture people and starve children is going to do fuckall to protect us LGBTQIA+ people?
And you're saying Trump would be better for those groups? In what way?
I've found the enemy! GET THEM!!! raises pitchfork, sets fires 🧑🌾🧨 🔥
You aren't obligated to support the fascist ghoul that Democrats present. It's up to them to make him worth voting for.
FYI I'm not telling you not to vote for him if you have your reasons, that would be unfathomably arrogant and would break this community's guidelines, nor am I telling you to vote for this unapologetic and irredeemable fascist, nor am I suggesting third party, nor abstaining.
But don't expect that people will just ignore the starvation, suffering, imprisonment, and unnecessary death and genocide to vote for a clearly fascist leader of an awful imperialist scourge of a state.
And what do you mean 26 and 28? You talking about the election years? Because I've got some strong words and a ban for you if you're willing to let that many people just fucking die in the interim.